Our Responsibility To Our Communities

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A barn raising is a community effort. It’s something that’s done to aid a family – often more than one – with one of the most labor-intensive and expensive parts of getting settled domestically. It’s something that’s built collectively, because it’s an impossible task for just one person (or even a handful of people) to complete. It literally takes a village. And without barns and the group effort to build and tend to them, the community itself will suffer.

Communities – online and off – are ecosystems of their own, too. They’re not built. They grow, and they have to be collectively nurtured in order to survive. They don’t just exist without tending, and the people that make that happen are NOT the “community managers”. They are the community members themselves.

We can agree on that part, right? Okay good. Now here’s the rub.

If you are a member of a community, and if you are asking for and expecting the benefits of that acceptance, you have a responsibility to contribute to the community in a constructive manner.  It is your responsibility to ensure that you build instead of tear down. It is your responsibility to steward the health and future of that community as one of its inhabitants.

That’s not to say you can’t disagree, engage in intelligent discourse or respectful dialogue, or hold differing opinions. But if you’re asking to be part of that group of people and asking for them to embrace you (including exercising your freedom to speak your mind), you bear the responsibility of creating dissonance with a positive purpose. Being contrarian for the sake of it is utterly valueless.

Why? That community isn’t owned by you, and it is not your stage. You didn’t build it alone, and you are not entitled to take a hammer to its walls because it pleases you or makes you feel important behind the shelter of that keyboard. That community is collectively invested in, and you are a part of it. You are not it’s purpose nor its sole steward. Simply put, it’s not about you.

The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. That’s what makes communities powerful.  You are not entitled to membership and acceptance. The community does not owe you anything. Truly being a part of something bigger than yourself means that you earn it. So if you enter communities to tip tables, throw rocks, leech off of others and leave a trail of self-important debris in your wake, you aren’t a community member. You’re a vandal.

We have many platforms that are open and freely accessible today for us to speak our minds, share our thoughts and opinions, and express our individuality. It’s an amazing time to be an individual voice.

But that does not and never will negate the need for respect, and the recognition that you are raising a barn upon which others will also come to rely. Can we learn to behave accordingly?

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  • http://GlobalPatriot.com Global Patriot

    Community is about giving and respect. If we can’t act with respect, then all is lost, or as least minimalized to the point of losing its value. With regards to giving, that is the true purpose of creating community in the first place, online or off, as we give in a selfless manner that considers the needs of others before our own needs.

  • http://GlobalPatriot.com Global Patriot

    Community is about giving and respect. If we can’t act with respect, then all is lost, or as least minimalized to the point of losing its value. With regards to giving, that is the true purpose of creating community in the first place, online or off, as we give in a selfless manner that considers the needs of others before our own needs.

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  • Belinda Gomez

    “The community decides what’s acceptable”

    But that’s just group think, and means that everyone becomes a member of the thought police. Look what happened at Flickr.

    As long as posters aren’t profane or personal in attacks, what’s wrong with tolerating dissenting voices?

    I think that the barn-raising metaphor makes no sense in this context. Sometimes structures that don’t work or no longer serve the intended community or their own function DO need to be torn down. Insisting that everyone post only positive thoughts isn’t realistic nor is it helpful.

    Why not just ignore people whose writings annoy you?

  • Belinda Gomez

    “The community decides what’s acceptable”

    But that’s just group think, and means that everyone becomes a member of the thought police. Look what happened at Flickr.

    As long as posters aren’t profane or personal in attacks, what’s wrong with tolerating dissenting voices?

    I think that the barn-raising metaphor makes no sense in this context. Sometimes structures that don’t work or no longer serve the intended community or their own function DO need to be torn down. Insisting that everyone post only positive thoughts isn’t realistic nor is it helpful.

    Why not just ignore people whose writings annoy you?

  • http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com olivier blanchard

    Slightly different discussion, but this post reminds me a conversation I had with a Chamber of Commerce honcho last fall. Basically, this is what I explained to him:

    Ten years ago, people depended on you to create a community, and because you were the only real game in town, they joined and played along. Today, they don’t need you. They can get on Facebook, Twitter, Seesmic, YouTube and Ning, and create their own business community on their own terms. They meet where they want, when they want, how they want and don’t need you to dictate their schedule anymore. They associate with who they want and weed out people they don’t want. They opt-in and opt-out at will. They define and redefine purpose and strategy at will. They use real-time tools to collaborate, discuss issues and find contractors. The new community’s relevance isn’t about continuity or legacy anymore, it’s about actual relevance.

    Communities form, grow and thrive on relevance, passion and interest. I see many companies trying to create communities in the Social Media space and failing miserably because they think that they have to BUILD something all on their own. A destination, an experience, content, etc. Truth is, the community is probably already there. It probably already lives online somewhere. The most successful community-building efforts I have seen online so far have been the ones where brand managers empowered their fans to create the community themselves. It does take a village.

    Communities are about the community, not about the community leader. You have to empower the fans, not disenfranchise them by building a temple for them to worship you in. :)

    You so rock for always writing fantastic posts, Amber.

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  • http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com olivier blanchard

    Slightly different discussion, but this post reminds me a conversation I had with a Chamber of Commerce honcho last fall. Basically, this is what I explained to him:

    Ten years ago, people depended on you to create a community, and because you were the only real game in town, they joined and played along. Today, they don’t need you. They can get on Facebook, Twitter, Seesmic, YouTube and Ning, and create their own business community on their own terms. They meet where they want, when they want, how they want and don’t need you to dictate their schedule anymore. They associate with who they want and weed out people they don’t want. They opt-in and opt-out at will. They define and redefine purpose and strategy at will. They use real-time tools to collaborate, discuss issues and find contractors. The new community’s relevance isn’t about continuity or legacy anymore, it’s about actual relevance.

    Communities form, grow and thrive on relevance, passion and interest. I see many companies trying to create communities in the Social Media space and failing miserably because they think that they have to BUILD something all on their own. A destination, an experience, content, etc. Truth is, the community is probably already there. It probably already lives online somewhere. The most successful community-building efforts I have seen online so far have been the ones where brand managers empowered their fans to create the community themselves. It does take a village.

    Communities are about the community, not about the community leader. You have to empower the fans, not disenfranchise them by building a temple for them to worship you in. :)

    You so rock for always writing fantastic posts, Amber.

    olivier blanchards last blog post..Engagement Paradigm: Defining the value of “followers” on Twitter

  • Tim

    It’s a shame we can’t figure out a way to preserve some of the disruptive energy that makes the physical world such a fun place to be. As long as we rely on hastily typed comments, we lose the subtle nuances that colour a conversation. People get affronted, everything becomes a detail fest where every character is pored over, and the dynamic of a healthy discussion can be lost.

    That’s why everyone plays nice all the time, it’s just a hell of a lot easier. But are we missing something by taking the flower strewn path of mutual admiration?

  • Tim

    It’s a shame we can’t figure out a way to preserve some of the disruptive energy that makes the physical world such a fun place to be. As long as we rely on hastily typed comments, we lose the subtle nuances that colour a conversation. People get affronted, everything becomes a detail fest where every character is pored over, and the dynamic of a healthy discussion can be lost.

    That’s why everyone plays nice all the time, it’s just a hell of a lot easier. But are we missing something by taking the flower strewn path of mutual admiration?

  • Amber Naslund

    One more time, with feeling, for those to whom I’ve not been clear.

    I am not nor will ever advocate a lack of dissent or differing opinion. I think healthy discourse and disagreement are essential for community growth. I do NOT think it’s all about being happy sunshine and roses all the time or a mutual admiration society.

    However, the idea of intelligent discourse or constructive discussion is a damn sight different than making your point by being an asshole. One builds, the other is merely disrespectful and destructive. It’s about behaving like adults and using good judgment. That’s the point here.

  • http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com olivier blanchard

    I have to side with Amber on this: Dissent is vital, sure, but being a contrarian just for the sake of being a contrarian doesn’t bring a whole lot to the table.

    Unless you have a valid counterpoint and either the semantic chops or substance to back it up, don’t fall into the heckler’s trap: Always being the guy in the back of the room who has to raise his hand to disagree about everything just to get attention. That’s not being smart or clever, it’s being an a**hole. There’s a big difference between presenting a valid counterpoint and being an antisocial attention addict.

    Not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but I’m calling a cat a cat. Meeeeeeeeow.

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  • http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com olivier blanchard

    I have to side with Amber on this: Dissent is vital, sure, but being a contrarian just for the sake of being a contrarian doesn’t bring a whole lot to the table.

    Unless you have a valid counterpoint and either the semantic chops or substance to back it up, don’t fall into the heckler’s trap: Always being the guy in the back of the room who has to raise his hand to disagree about everything just to get attention. That’s not being smart or clever, it’s being an a**hole. There’s a big difference between presenting a valid counterpoint and being an antisocial attention addict.

    Not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but I’m calling a cat a cat. Meeeeeeeeow.

    olivier blanchards last blog post..Engagement Paradigm: Defining the value of “followers” on Twitter

  • Tim

    So you’re either a constructive and positive contributor, or you’re an a-hole. But that’s my point about losing subtle nuance. I guess it’s because these communities are rooted in University-educated middle class libertarians – everyone’s always so goddam reasonable. No counterpoint can be tolerated unless prefaced by “I really do appreciate the effort you’ve obviously put in, but can I just be so bold as to offer a valuable insight that may sit contrary to your original position?” Can’t I just call you a fucktard instead?

    Instead what we get is less direct, but snide. (Eg “One more time…” as if I’ve not been quite bright enough to understand what you’re saying). It’s smiling with a grimace. It can feel like I imagine a gated community in Florida feels. Round of golf anyone?

    I know what you’re thinking. If you don’t like it, don’t play. Actually I do, I’m a University educated middle class guy, so I can fit in just fine. It’s just that I think we need to address the dynamics of online communication if we want to be truly inclusive.

    Another example – I played the online game Travian for a bit. The etiquette that surrounds it can be quite an eye opener. If you message a player and forget to put a subject line in, that’s a big no-no. If you don’t speak respectfully to the guy who’s attacking your village, that’s another black mark.

    I’d love to know if we’re becoming more apologetic – is that really healthy?

    • http://www.thechrisjonesgroup.com Chris Jones

      It’s not that you call me a fucktard. It’s WHY you call me a fucktard that matters. Well, to an extent anyway.

      I know people that I love that call me terrible things. They get away with it because they do it FOR me, not just to me. Streakers that disrupt the game for the theater are one thing. Streakers that disrupt the game for publicity for themselves are another. It’s not the activity, it’s the intent.

      Communities can only survive if they are composed of people that put the community above themselves. The people in the community have to be strong enough, and humble enough, to see who can’t remain, and who must.

      Chris Joness last blog post..HVCC and AMCs: Three huge problems. One simple solution.

  • Tim

    So you’re either a constructive and positive contributor, or you’re an a-hole. But that’s my point about losing subtle nuance. I guess it’s because these communities are rooted in University-educated middle class libertarians – everyone’s always so goddam reasonable. No counterpoint can be tolerated unless prefaced by “I really do appreciate the effort you’ve obviously put in, but can I just be so bold as to offer a valuable insight that may sit contrary to your original position?” Can’t I just call you a fucktard instead?

    Instead what we get is less direct, but snide. (Eg “One more time…” as if I’ve not been quite bright enough to understand what you’re saying). It’s smiling with a grimace. It can feel like I imagine a gated community in Florida feels. Round of golf anyone?

    I know what you’re thinking. If you don’t like it, don’t play. Actually I do, I’m a University educated middle class guy, so I can fit in just fine. It’s just that I think we need to address the dynamics of online communication if we want to be truly inclusive.

    Another example – I played the online game Travian for a bit. The etiquette that surrounds it can be quite an eye opener. If you message a player and forget to put a subject line in, that’s a big no-no. If you don’t speak respectfully to the guy who’s attacking your village, that’s another black mark.

    I’d love to know if we’re becoming more apologetic – is that really healthy?

    • http://www.thechrisjonesgroup.com Chris Jones

      It’s not that you call me a fucktard. It’s WHY you call me a fucktard that matters. Well, to an extent anyway.

      I know people that I love that call me terrible things. They get away with it because they do it FOR me, not just to me. Streakers that disrupt the game for the theater are one thing. Streakers that disrupt the game for publicity for themselves are another. It’s not the activity, it’s the intent.

      Communities can only survive if they are composed of people that put the community above themselves. The people in the community have to be strong enough, and humble enough, to see who can’t remain, and who must.

      Chris Joness last blog post..HVCC and AMCs: Three huge problems. One simple solution.

  • http://twitter.com/djwaldow DJ Waldow

    Well this “comment conversation” has certainly gotten interesting…However, as I re-read the post and all of the ensuing comments, I believe this is exactly the point. A mini-community has developed on this very page – one that is allowing for open discussion, back and forth dialogue, and even a bit of “contrarianism.”

    I want to stress what I think is one of the keys to Amber’s post (dare I say, “one more time”?):

    “You bear the responsibility of creating dissonance with a positive purpose. Being contrarian for the sake of it is utterly valueless.

    Sidebar: Firefox spell check does not recognize the word contrarian. Coincidence or…?

    My 3 cents.

    DJ Waldow
    @djwaldow

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  • http://twitter.com/djwaldow DJ Waldow

    Well this “comment conversation” has certainly gotten interesting…However, as I re-read the post and all of the ensuing comments, I believe this is exactly the point. A mini-community has developed on this very page – one that is allowing for open discussion, back and forth dialogue, and even a bit of “contrarianism.”

    I want to stress what I think is one of the keys to Amber’s post (dare I say, “one more time”?):

    “You bear the responsibility of creating dissonance with a positive purpose. Being contrarian for the sake of it is utterly valueless.

    Sidebar: Firefox spell check does not recognize the word contrarian. Coincidence or…?

    My 3 cents.

    DJ Waldow
    @djwaldow

    DJ Waldows last blog post..100th Post Ends The Journey

  • Tim

    I don’t disagree with a personal responsibility to add something of ‘value’ to any community. The problems usually start when we try to define what we consider ‘valuable’. Here in the UK (and I presume elsewhere) people take their clothes off and run across a sporting field. It’s selfish, self-indulgent and disrupts the flow of play. But it’s also theatre, and draws cheers and heckles in equal measure. The ‘community’ may decide that this adds nothing to the task in hand, and indeed some people may be offended by an equivalent act online, and therefore demand that the offending people are not allowed to participate.

    I’m not advocating a ‘free-for-all, anarchic, say what you like and hang the consequences’ approach. It won’t happen because we are, as a species, very fond of conforming. I’d just like to preserve as much richness, colour and texture as is humanly possible, and ‘netiquette’ has proven disastrous at achieving this aim.

  • Tim

    I don’t disagree with a personal responsibility to add something of ‘value’ to any community. The problems usually start when we try to define what we consider ‘valuable’. Here in the UK (and I presume elsewhere) people take their clothes off and run across a sporting field. It’s selfish, self-indulgent and disrupts the flow of play. But it’s also theatre, and draws cheers and heckles in equal measure. The ‘community’ may decide that this adds nothing to the task in hand, and indeed some people may be offended by an equivalent act online, and therefore demand that the offending people are not allowed to participate.

    I’m not advocating a ‘free-for-all, anarchic, say what you like and hang the consequences’ approach. It won’t happen because we are, as a species, very fond of conforming. I’d just like to preserve as much richness, colour and texture as is humanly possible, and ‘netiquette’ has proven disastrous at achieving this aim.

    • Amber Naslund

      You know what, Tim, I really do agree with you. I think we’re largely on the same page, really. And you can call me a fucktard anytime. :) Seriously though. Part of what I relish about the community is the discourse, and yes, even when it gets a little heated.

      I think you raise a valid point about “defining value”, and I’m really not advocating that we set some kind of unrealistic Emily Post kind of set of standards, because every community really is different in terms of their culture and tolerance level.

      Anyone who knows me will attest to the fact that I’m not at all for some kind of blanket nice-nice. :) I don’t roll like that, and I’m not afraid to speak my mind (and I always hope others will do the same). I suppose the flip side of your overly-apologetic coin, though, is the one that creates an online culture that has *no* expectations of appropriate behavior or respect. That’s what I’m railing against. I see more of the anarchic approach every day and people using their online anonymity as an excuse to dole out personal attacks, nastiness, and bully people. Not because they necessarily disagree with a premise, but because they like throwing rocks.

      Yes, my standards for that might be different than yours, and that’s okay. But I’d like to think we all agree that while we might differ on where the line is, there *is* a line between being an impassioned voice of dissent and being destructive.

  • Tim

    Damn you and your overflowing cup of reasonableness, I can find no cause to disagree with you now. How about you just stand still for a sec while I punch you in the face instead?? :OP

  • Tim

    Damn you and your overflowing cup of reasonableness, I can find no cause to disagree with you now. How about you just stand still for a sec while I punch you in the face instead?? :OP

  • http://www.thechrisjonesgroup.com Chris Jones

    Having shared community on multiple continents, all I can say is that there are those that complain because they care about the people in the community, and about the community, and there are those that complain because they like to complain.

    And if you care, you can tell the difference.

    I’m the dissenter, more often than not. Most of us here, we’re iconoclasts anyway. We don’t readily fit and lock-step groupthink drives us bats. Amber is not advocating that we abandon that. But seriously, can’t you tell when someone wants the community to succeed, and has a legitimate concern? And can’t you tell when someone is trying to put himself ahead of the community, and grumbles because it’s a ways to make himself important?

    We have a struggling community here, small and precious to those that live here. Today I spent part of the day defending one of our members against the Fire Marshal. He’s just doing his job, and we need him, but we need the bookstore, too. So we make peace, in a way, and try to remind the Fire Marshal that he’s a person that’s gonna need a quiet place to read one day, too. Eventually, almost always, they get it, and the community gets a bit bigger and a bit stronger.

    And sometimes they don’t. The problem is, then what? Online, you unfollow or ignore. But what if they live with you?

    Chris Joness last blog post..HVCC and AMCs: Three huge problems. One simple solution.

  • http://www.thechrisjonesgroup.com Chris Jones

    Having shared community on multiple continents, all I can say is that there are those that complain because they care about the people in the community, and about the community, and there are those that complain because they like to complain.

    And if you care, you can tell the difference.

    I’m the dissenter, more often than not. Most of us here, we’re iconoclasts anyway. We don’t readily fit and lock-step groupthink drives us bats. Amber is not advocating that we abandon that. But seriously, can’t you tell when someone wants the community to succeed, and has a legitimate concern? And can’t you tell when someone is trying to put himself ahead of the community, and grumbles because it’s a ways to make himself important?

    We have a struggling community here, small and precious to those that live here. Today I spent part of the day defending one of our members against the Fire Marshal. He’s just doing his job, and we need him, but we need the bookstore, too. So we make peace, in a way, and try to remind the Fire Marshal that he’s a person that’s gonna need a quiet place to read one day, too. Eventually, almost always, they get it, and the community gets a bit bigger and a bit stronger.

    And sometimes they don’t. The problem is, then what? Online, you unfollow or ignore. But what if they live with you?

    Chris Joness last blog post..HVCC and AMCs: Three huge problems. One simple solution.

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