Will The Business People Please Stand Up?

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I don’t care about social media gurus or experts or mavens or whatever. That whole thing is going to settle itself out eventually, when the good work starts getting more concrete, and the people actually doing the work continue demonstrating and illustrating their learnings and results.

What concerns me far more than some nerd slinging his Facebook skillz around the fishbowl is the fact that in so many disciplines – social media included – we’ve got legions of people out there that are missing fundamental business acumen.

What we need desperately?

People who can craft coherent, clear correspondence that has proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling.

People who know how a budget is put together, and the difference between profit, costs, and revenue.

People who know the differences between marketing, branding, and public relations, and how they all tie together.

People who can put together a simple plan for getting from A to B, complete with goals and objectives, and explain it to someone else.

People who can see how different areas of the business work together to form a systematic operation.

People who have basic customer service skills like patience, politeness, helpfulness, and common courtesy.

People who know how to communicate clearly, collaborate on projects, and manage people positively.

People who can admit what they don’t know, and seek knowledge or help.

People who can engage in intelligent discourse and discussion instead of self-aggrandizing rants.

Looking back over the list, I suppose I’m illustrating more than a lack of business skills, but also a lack of communication and interpersonal skills. We’re so spoiled by all the information coming to us with a few keystrokes, and we’re losing the ability to synthesize it ourselves and articulate it to someone else.

Filter out the people that lack the majority of these abilities, and you’ve solved a great deal of the guru problem right out of the gate. The businesses that earn progress will apply those filters for themselves. The ones that don’t have problems far larger than their social media expert choices.

At the moment, I’m frustrated. But I’m working on some constructive solutions to try and help solve this problem rather than just whining about it (more on that here soon).

But seriously? The “expert” discussion is only happening with fervor inside the fishbowl it affects. Out there, where the business and economy is moving forward and progress is being made, it’s not more qualified social media gurus that they need.

They need better, more professional, more equipped business people. Not just MBAs on paper, but those with applied knowledge and practice. It’s about time we stopped slinging our internet prowess, and instead spent some time understanding and honing the part we play in the bigger picture.

If you have these business skills, please flex them. Share them. Absorb more. Apply them and teach others. Please.

I promise those are my last words on the expert discussion. I’m all done with that tired subject. Instead, this blog and other projects I’m tinkering with will be focused on not just social media, but on building better business. Better thinking, culture, planning, and idea execution. The stuff that moves not just needles, but mountains.

I’m learning too, and I’m watching and absorbing all the time. But I see something bigger. Do you?

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  • http://www.stevewoodruff.com Steve Woodruff

    Amen, sister! If there’s no worthwhile application to real business and real people, then it’s all a waste of time.

  • http://www.stevewoodruff.com Steve Woodruff

    Amen, sister! If there’s no worthwhile application to real business and real people, then it’s all a waste of time.

  • http://www.chris-moody.com/blog Chris Moody

    Great post Amber!

    I definitely agree that things will sort themselves out and those with substance and creativity will rise to the top.

  • http://www.chris-moody.com/blog Chris Moody

    Great post Amber!

    I definitely agree that things will sort themselves out and those with substance and creativity will rise to the top.

  • http://jackieadkins.com Jackie Adkins

    You can teach any technologically adapt person to use social media tools, which is what too many people consider the only prerequisite for being able to contribute to a business in the area. As you mentioned, the key is not being able to use the tools.

    The key is figuring out how these tools fit into the overall strategy. The real valuable people out there are the ones who can recognize the goals of their business, create the strategy to achieve those goals, and then pick the tools that fit within that strategy.

    Another solid post, Amber!
    .-= Jackie Adkins´s last blog ..The Importance of Customer Retention =-.

  • http://jackieadkins.com Jackie Adkins

    You can teach any technologically adapt person to use social media tools, which is what too many people consider the only prerequisite for being able to contribute to a business in the area. As you mentioned, the key is not being able to use the tools.

    The key is figuring out how these tools fit into the overall strategy. The real valuable people out there are the ones who can recognize the goals of their business, create the strategy to achieve those goals, and then pick the tools that fit within that strategy.

    Another solid post, Amber!
    .-= Jackie Adkins´s last blog ..The Importance of Customer Retention =-.

  • http://Www.brandsavant.com Tom Webster

    See, now that just made my day. There are too many confusing social media enthusiasm for expertise, and who are daily trying to “teach” us all something. How ’bout some learning, too? And while it didn’t lead to my position or career to date, I don’t regret getting an MBA for a second. Even a basic grounding in operations and finance can make any would-be marketer a little better able to integrate with teams and work within constraints. But an MBA isn’t necessary.

    The number one trait we look for when we interview job candidates is not knowledge, but curiosity. You can’t grow in our organization without an insatiable curiosity to find out what works, what doesn’t and why. I suspect that is true for many other companies as well!

    Thanks, Amber

  • http://Www.brandsavant.com Tom Webster

    See, now that just made my day. There are too many confusing social media enthusiasm for expertise, and who are daily trying to “teach” us all something. How ’bout some learning, too? And while it didn’t lead to my position or career to date, I don’t regret getting an MBA for a second. Even a basic grounding in operations and finance can make any would-be marketer a little better able to integrate with teams and work within constraints. But an MBA isn’t necessary.

    The number one trait we look for when we interview job candidates is not knowledge, but curiosity. You can’t grow in our organization without an insatiable curiosity to find out what works, what doesn’t and why. I suspect that is true for many other companies as well!

    Thanks, Amber

  • http://katerobins@twitter.com Kate Robins

    This is great, Amber. Your list of skills we need desperately goes on the fridge. Nice focus! Otherwise, I’ve largely ignored the poobah-ha.

  • http://toughsledding.wordpress.com/ Bill Sledzik

    Educators in marketing, PR and business should pay special attention to the items you list under “What we need desperately.” A great set of guidelines for preparing students for the real world. I’m sitting in a faculty meeting at Kent State (I’m a PR educator) as I write this, and about half of these items have already been mentioned in discussions about improving the curriculum.
    .-= Bill Sledzik´s last blog ..Back in balmy Ohio =-.

  • http://toughsledding.wordpress.com/ Bill Sledzik

    Educators in marketing, PR and business should pay special attention to the items you list under “What we need desperately.” A great set of guidelines for preparing students for the real world. I’m sitting in a faculty meeting at Kent State (I’m a PR educator) as I write this, and about half of these items have already been mentioned in discussions about improving the curriculum.
    .-= Bill Sledzik´s last blog ..Back in balmy Ohio =-.

  • http://www.digitalmedianews.net Craig – Domino Digital

    Thank you for the excellent post. All too often, business objectives fly out the window in the face of some new ‘buzz’ If it’s not going to serve business objectives, it offers no value. I look forward to what you have in the offing.

  • http://www.digitalmedianews.net Craig – Domino Digital

    Thank you for the excellent post. All too often, business objectives fly out the window in the face of some new ‘buzz’ If it’s not going to serve business objectives, it offers no value. I look forward to what you have in the offing.

  • http://www.forwardmediagroup.com Jeffrey Friend

    Thanks for saying what I’ve been feeling lately. We need more leaders helping others, and less people carrying the “Social Media Expert” banner. You’ve gained a new follower!

  • http://www.forwardmediagroup.com Jeffrey Friend

    Thanks for saying what I’ve been feeling lately. We need more leaders helping others, and less people carrying the “Social Media Expert” banner. You’ve gained a new follower!

  • http://startupdaddy.com Ian Gordon

    Hi Amber,
    Well said! Your points ring so true I just had to let you know that you’re not alone. I have come to the internet and more recently social media, from a business first perspective. I am constantly amazed at the lack of real world, common sense business practices out here in the cyber-board room.

    How to write business correspondence, grammar, financial planning and reporting, etc., may not be sexy but when you lack these basic skills, you look like the amateur you are and it seems to somehow bring the whole group of us down just a few notches.

    It used to be that if you couldn’t project an professional image, you would fail. Period. Somewhere along the way though, lower standards became more common and acceptable. I believe this is turning around. I think that people’s perspective has been distorted by an overhanging dark cloud of hard times and failure by big business, and the backlash against big corporate has carried over to a backlash against looking like big corporate.

    Things are slowly turning around though, and as this cloud clears it is exposing the lack of good business practices where they exist. The people who lack these skills (and they know who they are) had better get studying.
    .-= Ian Gordon´s last blog ..Some New Year’s Inspiration From Steve Jobs. =-.

    • Zac

      “It used to be that if you couldn’t project an professional image, you would fail. Period. Somewhere along the way though, lower standards became more common and acceptable. I believe this is turning around. I think that people’s perspective has been distorted by an overhanging dark cloud of hard times and failure by big business, and the backlash against big corporate has carried over to a backlash against looking like big corporate.”

      I love this statement. I think you hit the nail on the head here and I also agree it is turning around.

  • http://startupdaddy.com Ian Gordon

    Hi Amber,
    Well said! Your points ring so true I just had to let you know that you’re not alone. I have come to the internet and more recently social media, from a business first perspective. I am constantly amazed at the lack of real world, common sense business practices out here in the cyber-board room.

    How to write business correspondence, grammar, financial planning and reporting, etc., may not be sexy but when you lack these basic skills, you look like the amateur you are and it seems to somehow bring the whole group of us down just a few notches.

    It used to be that if you couldn’t project an professional image, you would fail. Period. Somewhere along the way though, lower standards became more common and acceptable. I believe this is turning around. I think that people’s perspective has been distorted by an overhanging dark cloud of hard times and failure by big business, and the backlash against big corporate has carried over to a backlash against looking like big corporate.

    Things are slowly turning around though, and as this cloud clears it is exposing the lack of good business practices where they exist. The people who lack these skills (and they know who they are) had better get studying.
    .-= Ian Gordon´s last blog ..Some New Year’s Inspiration From Steve Jobs. =-.

    • Zac

      “It used to be that if you couldn’t project an professional image, you would fail. Period. Somewhere along the way though, lower standards became more common and acceptable. I believe this is turning around. I think that people’s perspective has been distorted by an overhanging dark cloud of hard times and failure by big business, and the backlash against big corporate has carried over to a backlash against looking like big corporate.”

      I love this statement. I think you hit the nail on the head here and I also agree it is turning around.

  • http://soloprpro.com Kellye Crane

    Agreed! It’s always amazed me how many people who have built up a significant following inside the fishbowl actually have little to no business experience. Within the items you list, I think the most important is the ability to look and the big picture and advise businesses on how and where to integrate social media into their operations – *and then show them how to do it.* It’s time for the concrete.
    .-= Kellye Crane´s last blog ..Work from Paris? Oui! =-.

  • http://soloprpro.com Kellye Crane

    Agreed! It’s always amazed me how many people who have built up a significant following inside the fishbowl actually have little to no business experience. Within the items you list, I think the most important is the ability to look and the big picture and advise businesses on how and where to integrate social media into their operations – *and then show them how to do it.* It’s time for the concrete.
    .-= Kellye Crane´s last blog ..Work from Paris? Oui! =-.

  • http://twitter.com/ddwebster Dana Webster

    Thank you for your common sense dialogue pertaining to every day business. In my professional tenure, I’ve been amazed at the lack of real understanding of how to relate and communicate with people.

    You hit the nail on the head, and I appreciate that you weren’t afraid to say it.

  • http://twitter.com/ddwebster Dana Webster

    Thank you for your common sense dialogue pertaining to every day business. In my professional tenure, I’ve been amazed at the lack of real understanding of how to relate and communicate with people.

    You hit the nail on the head, and I appreciate that you weren’t afraid to say it.

  • Jillian Davis

    Well put. You have (again) said respectfully that it’s not about the tools. The key is getting not only the self-proclaimed gurus to recognize this, but also everyone within an organization. Many organizations fuel the issue by relying only on social media staff to educate them on the latest tools. In my eyes, it’s up to everyone within an organization to stay current with tools that affect their business. As you’ve said, it’s up to the social media business people to understand and convey how those tools help meet business objectives.

  • Jillian Davis

    Well put. You have (again) said respectfully that it’s not about the tools. The key is getting not only the self-proclaimed gurus to recognize this, but also everyone within an organization. Many organizations fuel the issue by relying only on social media staff to educate them on the latest tools. In my eyes, it’s up to everyone within an organization to stay current with tools that affect their business. As you’ve said, it’s up to the social media business people to understand and convey how those tools help meet business objectives.

  • http://www.skinnyemmie.com Emily Sandford

    Love the post, Amber. Enjoyed listening to your comments at Social Fresh Nashville yesterday.
    As a marketing MBA (working on corporate side) and social media enthusiast(notice, enthusiast, not guru, maven, etc), sometimes I find the die hard marketing practitioners dismiss the (to quote Jason Falls) “tree hugging” stereotype of social media as unreliable and unmeasurable, while the “tree hugging” social media purists deem traditional marketing’s demands for metrics and ROI as untranslatable to their warm and fuzzy mediums.

    The lesson is that you can have BOTH. Being a social media enthusiast with a strong traditional marketing background does not make you an alien. Being a social media enthusiast who admits to being a business person to trying to use social media to impact the bottom line isn’t a traitor to the tree huggers. We can all learn from one another.

  • http://www.skinnyemmie.com Emily Sandford

    Love the post, Amber. Enjoyed listening to your comments at Social Fresh Nashville yesterday.
    As a marketing MBA (working on corporate side) and social media enthusiast(notice, enthusiast, not guru, maven, etc), sometimes I find the die hard marketing practitioners dismiss the (to quote Jason Falls) “tree hugging” stereotype of social media as unreliable and unmeasurable, while the “tree hugging” social media purists deem traditional marketing’s demands for metrics and ROI as untranslatable to their warm and fuzzy mediums.

    The lesson is that you can have BOTH. Being a social media enthusiast with a strong traditional marketing background does not make you an alien. Being a social media enthusiast who admits to being a business person to trying to use social media to impact the bottom line isn’t a traitor to the tree huggers. We can all learn from one another.

  • http://changeitmarketing.com Kevin Urie

    Dang, does that mean I have to learn proper grammar, and how to spell? I’m screwed.

    The main problem is doing what you suggest is hard, actually extremely hard.

    Social media is not like putting together a marketing or PR plan, it’s much more complex. To do it correctly you must incorporate almost all areas of your business, and at the very least marketing, PR, customer service, and brand development.

    When a social media plan is built it’s much more like building a business plan, and how many people do you know that can do that? Ideas are easy to come up with, and you can see this by looking at all the new business that start up each day. But only 5% of new business succeed for longer than 5 years.

    Maybe what you laid out here should be setup as the barrier to entry, to become a social media professional. Back when you needed expensive equipment for video editing only true professional would call themselves a video pro. Today if someone has iMovie and an HD cam they think they are a video professional.

    Maybe this post just raised the bar, and should be used to evaluate the worthiness of social media professionals. Let’s hope so.

    • http://toughsledding.wordpress.com/ Bill Sledzik

      Kevin,

      We could cull the herd of “SM gurus” significantly if we required a grammar/punctuation test :-)
      .-= Bill Sledzik´s last blog ..Back in balmy Ohio =-.

  • http://changeitmarketing.com Kevin Urie

    Dang, does that mean I have to learn proper grammar, and how to spell? I’m screwed.

    The main problem is doing what you suggest is hard, actually extremely hard.

    Social media is not like putting together a marketing or PR plan, it’s much more complex. To do it correctly you must incorporate almost all areas of your business, and at the very least marketing, PR, customer service, and brand development.

    When a social media plan is built it’s much more like building a business plan, and how many people do you know that can do that? Ideas are easy to come up with, and you can see this by looking at all the new business that start up each day. But only 5% of new business succeed for longer than 5 years.

    Maybe what you laid out here should be setup as the barrier to entry, to become a social media professional. Back when you needed expensive equipment for video editing only true professional would call themselves a video pro. Today if someone has iMovie and an HD cam they think they are a video professional.

    Maybe this post just raised the bar, and should be used to evaluate the worthiness of social media professionals. Let’s hope so.

    • http://toughsledding.wordpress.com/ Bill Sledzik

      Kevin,

      We could cull the herd of “SM gurus” significantly if we required a grammar/punctuation test :-)
      .-= Bill Sledzik´s last blog ..Back in balmy Ohio =-.

  • http://www.veronicasopher.com Veronica Sopher

    Amber — Thank you for another frank and concise post. I am very much looking forward to the end of “social media” as a buzz term. Those who are hunkering down to do the real work, while others are still busy slapping each other’s asses or slinging mud, will win soon. :)
    .-= Veronica Sopher´s last blog ..1% or 100%? =-.

  • http://www.veronicasopher.com Veronica Sopher

    Amber — Thank you for another frank and concise post. I am very much looking forward to the end of “social media” as a buzz term. Those who are hunkering down to do the real work, while others are still busy slapping each other’s asses or slinging mud, will win soon. :)
    .-= Veronica Sopher´s last blog ..1% or 100%? =-.

  • http://www.wordsellinc.com Brad Shorr

    Amber, Great post, and I couldn’t agree with you more. A rampant lack of basic business skills is unfortunately nothing new. Also unfortunately, the only way to truly know what kind of person you’re dealing with is to deal. For that reason, I try to go very slowly with new business relationships. Still, from time to time I get caught up in my enthusiasm and get involved in a “dream project” that turns into a nightmare.
    .-= Brad Shorr´s last blog ..Tight Title Tags Attract Twitter Traffic =-.

  • http://www.wordsellinc.com Brad Shorr

    Amber, Great post, and I couldn’t agree with you more. A rampant lack of basic business skills is unfortunately nothing new. Also unfortunately, the only way to truly know what kind of person you’re dealing with is to deal. For that reason, I try to go very slowly with new business relationships. Still, from time to time I get caught up in my enthusiasm and get involved in a “dream project” that turns into a nightmare.
    .-= Brad Shorr´s last blog ..Tight Title Tags Attract Twitter Traffic =-.

  • http://blog.owengreaves.com Owen Greaves

    Hi Amber,

    OK, You got me on this one, I know what you are trying to say but lets look at who we are talking to in this environment. Forgive me if I come off ranting.

    I am only going to draw from my experiences of being here online since the late 80′s when Gohper and WAIS were the tools of the day, FTP was the strongest tranfer tool ever!

    It will appear like I’m tooting my own horn but really I’m not, like you, my hearts desire is that I could share my experiences from the trench building sound I.T. Strategies, showing Blog readers how a traditional ROI is calculated, and show you how to determine your businesses breakeven point, but that’s kind of boring me thinks.

    Walking through an I.T. Strategic Plan, the steps you should consider working through to at least set the foundation for that plan, that’s not all that exciting either. You can find the above on my Blog, not in great detail but at least at a high-level approach.

    There are literally hundreds of, if not thousands of sites on how to do a proper business plan too.

    Everything you mentioned plus mine above are badly needed from a professional perspective, but my experience so far, here in Social Media circles anyway, people are not that serious about how to do those things. This is still a place to escape to after the day job, or even during the day job.

    The How to build a good blog, how do I monetize it and make millions, the how do I get 10 million followers and so on seem to be the lions share of Internet users and scammers today. Even I want to learn some of those things.

    My point is, right now, I would love to see what you have so brilliantly articulated but the reality is, the circle is still too small. Why? Business owners still don’t fully understand what they have in their hands when it comes to the Internet.

    You & I know many of the same great people working hard to change the mindset, we want to educate and arm business owners with the right tools, metrics and perspective to succeed here. The problem is, they still don’t take this platform seriously enough, it’s still recreation.

    Sorry but I had to get that off my chest. There’s more but it’s a moot point.

    So what’s the answer, I think you & I and host of others must stay the course, continue to fight the battles we can win, do our best to educate the business owners if they’ll listen. This is going to take a little longer than I would like to see, but I know eventually this environment will have to be taken seriously because the shift is well under way.

    It’s not that different than trying to save people from going to hell, business is changing rapdily, if you don’t change with it, your out of business.

    • Amber Naslund

      “The problem is, they still don’t take this platform seriously enough, it’s still recreation.”

      That’s exactly the point, Owen. They don’t take it seriously because it’s largely being perpetuated by a bunch of hacks that don’t know a P&L from D&D.

      We have to continue to educate, yes. But there is a place for personal accountability in individuals. It’s not that the resources aren’t out there. It’s that we have to be willing to take *ourselves* and our industry seriously enough to commit to learning them.

      • http://blog.owengreaves.com Owen Greaves

        I love how we agree with different words : )

        My wife finds that frustrating.

        The problem will ly in how thinks they are the ones to hold those accountable, vigilanty thinking? I think the truth will still cut through with most, a good set of case studies reflecting positive outcomes. ROI is one positive outcome and is most likely the one business owners want to see. Therefore, these frauds out there won’t have a clue how to proceed.

        Owen Out!

  • http://blog.owengreaves.com Owen Greaves

    Hi Amber,

    OK, You got me on this one, I know what you are trying to say but lets look at who we are talking to in this environment. Forgive me if I come off ranting.

    I am only going to draw from my experiences of being here online since the late 80′s when Gohper and WAIS were the tools of the day, FTP was the strongest tranfer tool ever!

    It will appear like I’m tooting my own horn but really I’m not, like you, my hearts desire is that I could share my experiences from the trench building sound I.T. Strategies, showing Blog readers how a traditional ROI is calculated, and show you how to determine your businesses breakeven point, but that’s kind of boring me thinks.

    Walking through an I.T. Strategic Plan, the steps you should consider working through to at least set the foundation for that plan, that’s not all that exciting either. You can find the above on my Blog, not in great detail but at least at a high-level approach.

    There are literally hundreds of, if not thousands of sites on how to do a proper business plan too.

    Everything you mentioned plus mine above are badly needed from a professional perspective, but my experience so far, here in Social Media circles anyway, people are not that serious about how to do those things. This is still a place to escape to after the day job, or even during the day job.

    The How to build a good blog, how do I monetize it and make millions, the how do I get 10 million followers and so on seem to be the lions share of Internet users and scammers today. Even I want to learn some of those things.

    My point is, right now, I would love to see what you have so brilliantly articulated but the reality is, the circle is still too small. Why? Business owners still don’t fully understand what they have in their hands when it comes to the Internet.

    You & I know many of the same great people working hard to change the mindset, we want to educate and arm business owners with the right tools, metrics and perspective to succeed here. The problem is, they still don’t take this platform seriously enough, it’s still recreation.

    Sorry but I had to get that off my chest. There’s more but it’s a moot point.

    So what’s the answer, I think you & I and host of others must stay the course, continue to fight the battles we can win, do our best to educate the business owners if they’ll listen. This is going to take a little longer than I would like to see, but I know eventually this environment will have to be taken seriously because the shift is well under way.

    It’s not that different than trying to save people from going to hell, business is changing rapdily, if you don’t change with it, your out of business.

    • Amber Naslund

      “The problem is, they still don’t take this platform seriously enough, it’s still recreation.”

      That’s exactly the point, Owen. They don’t take it seriously because it’s largely being perpetuated by a bunch of hacks that don’t know a P&L from D&D.

      We have to continue to educate, yes. But there is a place for personal accountability in individuals. It’s not that the resources aren’t out there. It’s that we have to be willing to take *ourselves* and our industry seriously enough to commit to learning them.

      • http://blog.owengreaves.com Owen Greaves

        I love how we agree with different words : )

        My wife finds that frustrating.

        The problem will ly in how thinks they are the ones to hold those accountable, vigilanty thinking? I think the truth will still cut through with most, a good set of case studies reflecting positive outcomes. ROI is one positive outcome and is most likely the one business owners want to see. Therefore, these frauds out there won’t have a clue how to proceed.

        Owen Out!

  • http://www.aircut.com Russ

    Well said, Amber! One of my new irritations is Twitter bios, blog bios, etc. with the word “guru” in them. There’s also no place for them on LinkedIn profiles anywhere. The word is so over-used that it’s like white noise. The other points are already discussed here, but I think it also is important to say that we need businesspeople who can spell, too. Nothing I hate more than looking at a blog post with typos all over. Spell check is built in to most of these, people!

    Keep up the great work, Amber!

  • http://www.aircut.com Russ

    Well said, Amber! One of my new irritations is Twitter bios, blog bios, etc. with the word “guru” in them. There’s also no place for them on LinkedIn profiles anywhere. The word is so over-used that it’s like white noise. The other points are already discussed here, but I think it also is important to say that we need businesspeople who can spell, too. Nothing I hate more than looking at a blog post with typos all over. Spell check is built in to most of these, people!

    Keep up the great work, Amber!

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  • http://www.opinionatlarge.com Eric

    We are still in the hype stage of social media for business. The dust will settle and the cream will rise to the top. There is a no long term market for the incapable, but there will always be one for talent.

    Great post.
    .-= Eric´s last blog ..Planning for your personal brand. =-.

  • http://www.opinionatlarge.com Eric

    We are still in the hype stage of social media for business. The dust will settle and the cream will rise to the top. There is a no long term market for the incapable, but there will always be one for talent.

    Great post.
    .-= Eric´s last blog ..Planning for your personal brand. =-.

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  • http://crenshawcomm.com/communicate Dorothy Crenshaw

    I couldn’t agree more. And, I’d add that we need professional communicators who understand a client’s business fundamentals, know the competitive set, are familiar with the distribution channels of their products and how they get to market (or how services are marketed and sold), and who can actually read a company’s balance sheet and grasp its implications. Twenty years later, I’m still grateful that my first PR agency boss drilled into me the importance of actually knowing your client’s business and being a business person in general.
    Great post.
    .-= Dorothy Crenshaw´s last blog ..Lady Gaga and Polaroid: Beautiful Music or Bad Romance? =-.

  • http://crenshawcomm.com/communicate Dorothy Crenshaw

    I couldn’t agree more. And, I’d add that we need professional communicators who understand a client’s business fundamentals, know the competitive set, are familiar with the distribution channels of their products and how they get to market (or how services are marketed and sold), and who can actually read a company’s balance sheet and grasp its implications. Twenty years later, I’m still grateful that my first PR agency boss drilled into me the importance of actually knowing your client’s business and being a business person in general.
    Great post.
    .-= Dorothy Crenshaw´s last blog ..Lady Gaga and Polaroid: Beautiful Music or Bad Romance? =-.

  • http://www.lexalytics.com Christine Sierra

    Interestingly enough, I had this exact conversation with my 7 year old last night as she was frustrated with homework that had nothing to do with social media. You learn every day. Forever. It doesn’t end at any specific point. And you share what you know, or don’t know sometimes, and it makes the world a better place. But no one knows EVERYTHING.

    Don’t fake it. Don’t pretend you know what the ‘Long A’ sounds like if you aren’t sure. Ask. And grow.

    Loved this post. But I love learning.

    • Amber Naslund

      Oh believe me, that’s inherent in my message. Stay tuned for tomorrow’s post.

  • http://www.lexalytics.com Christine Sierra

    Interestingly enough, I had this exact conversation with my 7 year old last night as she was frustrated with homework that had nothing to do with social media. You learn every day. Forever. It doesn’t end at any specific point. And you share what you know, or don’t know sometimes, and it makes the world a better place. But no one knows EVERYTHING.

    Don’t fake it. Don’t pretend you know what the ‘Long A’ sounds like if you aren’t sure. Ask. And grow.

    Loved this post. But I love learning.

    • Amber Naslund

      Oh believe me, that’s inherent in my message. Stay tuned for tomorrow’s post.

  • http://www.marketingadept.com Justin

    I love this post. The irony, though, is that people who are pseudo “business people” will never know this post is about them. At the risk of offending those who have commented, I’d bet 90% of them are exactly the person you described.

    To your point, it’s only a matter of time before the cream will rise to the top and the space will normalize a bit. I just hope my work and the success of my clients will give me staying power. Time will tell.

    • Amber Naslund

      “The irony, though, is that people who are pseudo “business people” will never know this post is about them.”

      Justin, you inspired my post for tomorrow. Thanks for that. You’re deadly right, and I’m going to talk about exactly that.

  • http://www.marketingadept.com Justin

    I love this post. The irony, though, is that people who are pseudo “business people” will never know this post is about them. At the risk of offending those who have commented, I’d bet 90% of them are exactly the person you described.

    To your point, it’s only a matter of time before the cream will rise to the top and the space will normalize a bit. I just hope my work and the success of my clients will give me staying power. Time will tell.

    • Amber Naslund

      “The irony, though, is that people who are pseudo “business people” will never know this post is about them.”

      Justin, you inspired my post for tomorrow. Thanks for that. You’re deadly right, and I’m going to talk about exactly that.

  • http://idea15.wordpress.com Heather

    I’ve been ranting about this too lately, although far less eloquently than you have done. I am so frustrated with having my billable time wasted by people who – even 10 or 15 years ago – would never have been allowed to finish a freshman internship, nevermind run a business. It does worry me about where the future lies, when it seems like for every one good client, we have to sift through 9 bad or non-clients and their self-centred, semi-literate ranting.
    .-= Heather´s last blog ..7 words that tell me you’re not serious about your business =-.

  • http://idea15.wordpress.com Heather

    I’ve been ranting about this too lately, although far less eloquently than you have done. I am so frustrated with having my billable time wasted by people who – even 10 or 15 years ago – would never have been allowed to finish a freshman internship, nevermind run a business. It does worry me about where the future lies, when it seems like for every one good client, we have to sift through 9 bad or non-clients and their self-centred, semi-literate ranting.
    .-= Heather´s last blog ..7 words that tell me you’re not serious about your business =-.

  • http://www.momblebee.com/blog Cheryl Andonian

    Amber,
    It is a problem across the board with not only marketing/social media gurus who have never marketed anything aside from marketing their marketing guru-ness, but with web “designers” who bought some software, learned how to use it, but know nothing about basic principles of design, and “writers” who can type but don’t know how to put an articulate sentence together. Unfortuanately, those are the ones who often seem to be able to convince unwitting small businesses that they can supply businesses with some special skill. Price always seems to win out. Low level talent can get away with a low price, and in this economy, price seems to be the key to businesses that don’t have the acumen to smell a foul guru from a rose.
    .-= Cheryl Andonian´s last blog ..The Lawlessness Of Twitter’s Wild West =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Then you know what? That’s their problem. Honestly. If you’re a business that can’t do the homework and due diligence to figure out what you need from your staff and consultants and demand performance to a set of standards? If you’re a slave to price alone and not willing to let your goals win out over your budget? You deserve what you get. Shills and crappy practitioners have existed in every industry since the dawn of time.

      I’m all done with the notion that there isn’t enough information out there to make an intelligent choice on hiring someone to help you, especially with social media. It’s about time we start making both individuals and businesses accountable for exercising their brains, and putting their money where their mouth is, on both sides of the table.

  • http://www.momblebee.com/blog Cheryl Andonian

    Amber,
    It is a problem across the board with not only marketing/social media gurus who have never marketed anything aside from marketing their marketing guru-ness, but with web “designers” who bought some software, learned how to use it, but know nothing about basic principles of design, and “writers” who can type but don’t know how to put an articulate sentence together. Unfortuanately, those are the ones who often seem to be able to convince unwitting small businesses that they can supply businesses with some special skill. Price always seems to win out. Low level talent can get away with a low price, and in this economy, price seems to be the key to businesses that don’t have the acumen to smell a foul guru from a rose.
    .-= Cheryl Andonian´s last blog ..The Lawlessness Of Twitter’s Wild West =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Then you know what? That’s their problem. Honestly. If you’re a business that can’t do the homework and due diligence to figure out what you need from your staff and consultants and demand performance to a set of standards? If you’re a slave to price alone and not willing to let your goals win out over your budget? You deserve what you get. Shills and crappy practitioners have existed in every industry since the dawn of time.

      I’m all done with the notion that there isn’t enough information out there to make an intelligent choice on hiring someone to help you, especially with social media. It’s about time we start making both individuals and businesses accountable for exercising their brains, and putting their money where their mouth is, on both sides of the table.