Will The Business People Please Stand Up?

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I don’t care about social media gurus or experts or mavens or whatever. That whole thing is going to settle itself out eventually, when the good work starts getting more concrete, and the people actually doing the work continue demonstrating and illustrating their learnings and results.

What concerns me far more than some nerd slinging his Facebook skillz around the fishbowl is the fact that in so many disciplines – social media included – we’ve got legions of people out there that are missing fundamental business acumen.

What we need desperately?

People who can craft coherent, clear correspondence that has proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling.

People who know how a budget is put together, and the difference between profit, costs, and revenue.

People who know the differences between marketing, branding, and public relations, and how they all tie together.

People who can put together a simple plan for getting from A to B, complete with goals and objectives, and explain it to someone else.

People who can see how different areas of the business work together to form a systematic operation.

People who have basic customer service skills like patience, politeness, helpfulness, and common courtesy.

People who know how to communicate clearly, collaborate on projects, and manage people positively.

People who can admit what they don’t know, and seek knowledge or help.

People who can engage in intelligent discourse and discussion instead of self-aggrandizing rants.

Looking back over the list, I suppose I’m illustrating more than a lack of business skills, but also a lack of communication and interpersonal skills. We’re so spoiled by all the information coming to us with a few keystrokes, and we’re losing the ability to synthesize it ourselves and articulate it to someone else.

Filter out the people that lack the majority of these abilities, and you’ve solved a great deal of the guru problem right out of the gate. The businesses that earn progress will apply those filters for themselves. The ones that don’t have problems far larger than their social media expert choices.

At the moment, I’m frustrated. But I’m working on some constructive solutions to try and help solve this problem rather than just whining about it (more on that here soon).

But seriously? The “expert” discussion is only happening with fervor inside the fishbowl it affects. Out there, where the business and economy is moving forward and progress is being made, it’s not more qualified social media gurus that they need.

They need better, more professional, more equipped business people. Not just MBAs on paper, but those with applied knowledge and practice. It’s about time we stopped slinging our internet prowess, and instead spent some time understanding and honing the part we play in the bigger picture.

If you have these business skills, please flex them. Share them. Absorb more. Apply them and teach others. Please.

I promise those are my last words on the expert discussion. I’m all done with that tired subject. Instead, this blog and other projects I’m tinkering with will be focused on not just social media, but on building better business. Better thinking, culture, planning, and idea execution. The stuff that moves not just needles, but mountains.

I’m learning too, and I’m watching and absorbing all the time. But I see something bigger. Do you?

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  • http://seakisst.wordpress.com SaraKate

    Currently, I’m working on learning how to do all the things you mentioned and, hopefully, learning how to do them well. At least for me as a young professional, I’m trying to learn as much as possible about business in general and how all of these things work in practice, as well as in theory. Though I am not a PR pro, I see things that PR pros are doing well – especially those I am friend with on Twitter and whose blogs I follow – such as practical education and internships, externships, mentorships, open and honest Twitter chats and online professional networking groups on LinkedIn and other sites, as well as great interpersonal networking opportunities with conferences, events, and individual get-togethers. I think it’s those types of cooperative, rather than competitive environments that create professionals who are proud of their work, get things done and inspire the next generation.

    This is a little off-topic, but do you have any advice for professional mentoring in fields outside of PR? I’d love to know your thoughts.
    .-= SaraKate´s last blog ..056. Making Room =-.

  • http://seakisst.wordpress.com SaraKate

    Currently, I’m working on learning how to do all the things you mentioned and, hopefully, learning how to do them well. At least for me as a young professional, I’m trying to learn as much as possible about business in general and how all of these things work in practice, as well as in theory. Though I am not a PR pro, I see things that PR pros are doing well – especially those I am friend with on Twitter and whose blogs I follow – such as practical education and internships, externships, mentorships, open and honest Twitter chats and online professional networking groups on LinkedIn and other sites, as well as great interpersonal networking opportunities with conferences, events, and individual get-togethers. I think it’s those types of cooperative, rather than competitive environments that create professionals who are proud of their work, get things done and inspire the next generation.

    This is a little off-topic, but do you have any advice for professional mentoring in fields outside of PR? I’d love to know your thoughts.
    .-= SaraKate´s last blog ..056. Making Room =-.

  • http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com olivier blanchard

    Amen, amen, amen… amen, amen, amen and amen!

    In conclusion, amen.

    We share the same pain. And it is actual pain, mind you. Not figurative pain. Every week, I seriously consider leaving all this behind and becoming a carpenter or something, just so I don’t have to keep beating my head against the wall anymore.

    But then I remember that I can’t fault people for not knowing any better, for not knowing how to actually do their jobs, and even for not having the humility and professional huevos to just admit it and do something about it.

    I can’t quit because I can’t quit them. Or you. Or any of this.

    I’ll go do something else when these issues no longer come up and I am not needed here anymore.

    I meaning we.

    ;)
    .-= olivier blanchard´s last blog ..Will the world’s best Social Media case studies please stand up? =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      I don’t mind sharing and teaching and educating someone with the intent to learn. Hell, I have plenty to learn myself. It’s not educating I resent. It’s willful ignorance and self importance. The notion that you have nothing to learn, and no need for skills other than the ones you have.

      That I have no patience for.

  • http://thebrandbuilder.wordpress.com olivier blanchard

    Amen, amen, amen… amen, amen, amen and amen!

    In conclusion, amen.

    We share the same pain. And it is actual pain, mind you. Not figurative pain. Every week, I seriously consider leaving all this behind and becoming a carpenter or something, just so I don’t have to keep beating my head against the wall anymore.

    But then I remember that I can’t fault people for not knowing any better, for not knowing how to actually do their jobs, and even for not having the humility and professional huevos to just admit it and do something about it.

    I can’t quit because I can’t quit them. Or you. Or any of this.

    I’ll go do something else when these issues no longer come up and I am not needed here anymore.

    I meaning we.

    ;)
    .-= olivier blanchard´s last blog ..Will the world’s best Social Media case studies please stand up? =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      I don’t mind sharing and teaching and educating someone with the intent to learn. Hell, I have plenty to learn myself. It’s not educating I resent. It’s willful ignorance and self importance. The notion that you have nothing to learn, and no need for skills other than the ones you have.

      That I have no patience for.

  • http://www.megfowler.com Meg

    YES. Thank you.

    Professionalism, thoughtfulness, goal-driven activity and communication skills have gone out the window for FAR too many people, and as a writer who requires positive communication to deliver a good product, nothing drives me more batty than rudeness, people who can’t articulate their ideas and needs (not because they tried and failed, but because they don’t try), and people who don’t understand that their success is INTIMATELY connected to how well they communicate with others and contribute to larger goals.
    .-= Meg´s last blog ..25 things i want more of in 2010. =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      “not because they tried and failed, but because they don’t try”.

      Yes.

  • http://www.megfowler.com Meg

    YES. Thank you.

    Professionalism, thoughtfulness, goal-driven activity and communication skills have gone out the window for FAR too many people, and as a writer who requires positive communication to deliver a good product, nothing drives me more batty than rudeness, people who can’t articulate their ideas and needs (not because they tried and failed, but because they don’t try), and people who don’t understand that their success is INTIMATELY connected to how well they communicate with others and contribute to larger goals.
    .-= Meg´s last blog ..25 things i want more of in 2010. =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      “not because they tried and failed, but because they don’t try”.

      Yes.

  • http://www.b2bbloggers.com Jeremy Victor

    Amber,

    So much bigger. Great post.

    No one without the credentials you list will be capable of helping companies make the transition from where they are today into the socially engaged businesses of tomorrrow.

  • http://www.b2bbloggers.com Jeremy Victor

    Amber,

    So much bigger. Great post.

    No one without the credentials you list will be capable of helping companies make the transition from where they are today into the socially engaged businesses of tomorrrow.

  • http://www.thatdamnredhead.net Stacy Lukasavitz

    OK once again I’m late to the party and I don’t want to beat a dead horse here but “You go, girl!”

    Rather than tell you how much I agree with you, I’ll just confess that reading this reminded me of one of my favorite scenes in Romy & Michele’s High School Reunion, where they walk into a diner in the middle of nowhere wearing business suits and say, “Excuse me, do you have any businesswoman specials? Because you know, we’re businesswomen… we’re doing Tuscon later.” You can dress up like a businessperson and even claim to invent Post-Its, but you’ll eventually be found out.
    .-= Stacy Lukasavitz´s last blog ..Social media is way too smurfy these days. =-.

  • http://www.thatdamnredhead.net Stacy Lukasavitz

    OK once again I’m late to the party and I don’t want to beat a dead horse here but “You go, girl!”

    Rather than tell you how much I agree with you, I’ll just confess that reading this reminded me of one of my favorite scenes in Romy & Michele’s High School Reunion, where they walk into a diner in the middle of nowhere wearing business suits and say, “Excuse me, do you have any businesswoman specials? Because you know, we’re businesswomen… we’re doing Tuscon later.” You can dress up like a businessperson and even claim to invent Post-Its, but you’ll eventually be found out.
    .-= Stacy Lukasavitz´s last blog ..Social media is way too smurfy these days. =-.

  • http://www.twitter.com/intrinzinc patrickdh

    Very good annual review and great constructive focus for 2010.

  • patrickdh

    Very good annual review and great constructive focus for 2010.

  • http://www.annabarcelos.me Anna Barcelos

    Amber, this is brilliant. Thanks for getting on top of a chair and blowing a fog horn here. Amazing how things can get out of hand per se and the fundamental basics are left by the wayside. There’s a saying “simplicity is the ultimate sophistication,” and you’ve eloquently communicated it here (as always). I think one has to make a conscious effort to try and keep it simple every day and not lose sight of the basics like writing well, picking up a phone to speak to someone or just giving their child a hug and kiss.
    .-= Anna Barcelos´s last blog ..Tweetsgiving: What I’m Thankful For =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      If fundamentals were so very fundamental, we wouldn’t have to keep teaching them, it seems. But in a world populated by shortcuts and instant gratification, we often miss that the enduring things take work.

  • http://www.annabarcelos.me Anna Barcelos

    Amber, this is brilliant. Thanks for getting on top of a chair and blowing a fog horn here. Amazing how things can get out of hand per se and the fundamental basics are left by the wayside. There’s a saying “simplicity is the ultimate sophistication,” and you’ve eloquently communicated it here (as always). I think one has to make a conscious effort to try and keep it simple every day and not lose sight of the basics like writing well, picking up a phone to speak to someone or just giving their child a hug and kiss.
    .-= Anna Barcelos´s last blog ..Tweetsgiving: What I’m Thankful For =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      If fundamentals were so very fundamental, we wouldn’t have to keep teaching them, it seems. But in a world populated by shortcuts and instant gratification, we often miss that the enduring things take work.

  • http://www.flashfree.wordpress.com Liz Scherer

    Amber you raise one very interesting and very essential point: the need for a foundation. A degree does not supercede experience and a tweet does not a guru make. Personally, I believe that part of the issue lies with expectations and impatience rather than honing, developing and evolving. As someone who has been in the marketing and communications business since ’84, I’ve observed lots of wonderful and exciting changes. But I’ve also observed a lack of commitment to learning and engaging the fundamentals. Everything old is really new again; it’s all in the spin and the technology. Thank you for this post.

  • http://www.flashfree.wordpress.com Liz Scherer

    Amber you raise one very interesting and very essential point: the need for a foundation. A degree does not supercede experience and a tweet does not a guru make. Personally, I believe that part of the issue lies with expectations and impatience rather than honing, developing and evolving. As someone who has been in the marketing and communications business since ’84, I’ve observed lots of wonderful and exciting changes. But I’ve also observed a lack of commitment to learning and engaging the fundamentals. Everything old is really new again; it’s all in the spin and the technology. Thank you for this post.

  • http://methodandmoxie.wordpress.com Narciso Tovar, Big Noise Commu

    Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes! For the Longest Time, I Have Been Arguing This in PR…basically saying that any kind of hype, promise, etc. that you throw out is gonna get shot down…especially if you have nothing BUT smoke and mirrors working with you.

    It’s a bad scneario, any way you look at it. And big GRACIAS to you for sending out this great reminder that, regardless of what we may do in communications or social media, we have to work in BUSINESS.

    Narciso Tovar
    Big Noise Communications
    @Narciso17
    .-= Narciso Tovar, Big Noise Communications´s last blog ..After a Little PR Nirvana… =-.

  • http://methodandmoxie.wordpress.com Narciso Tovar, Big Noise Communications

    Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes! For the Longest Time, I Have Been Arguing This in PR…basically saying that any kind of hype, promise, etc. that you throw out is gonna get shot down…especially if you have nothing BUT smoke and mirrors working with you.

    It’s a bad scneario, any way you look at it. And big GRACIAS to you for sending out this great reminder that, regardless of what we may do in communications or social media, we have to work in BUSINESS.

    Narciso Tovar
    Big Noise Communications
    @Narciso17
    .-= Narciso Tovar, Big Noise Communications´s last blog ..After a Little PR Nirvana… =-.

  • Amy Drill

    Amber, very well put, as everyone else has said. I’ve recently finished my MBA and found so many in my classes that lacked simple business concepts, common sense, and honestly believed that they were going to make it because they knew how to schedule events in Facebook and tweet every inane thought that came to mind. Thank you so much for this post!

  • Amy Drill

    Amber, very well put, as everyone else has said. I’ve recently finished my MBA and found so many in my classes that lacked simple business concepts, common sense, and honestly believed that they were going to make it because they knew how to schedule events in Facebook and tweet every inane thought that came to mind. Thank you so much for this post!

  • http://twitter.com/catherineellen Catherine

    This is awesome! I want to print this and tape it to my wall. I think everyone should print it and tape it to their walls.

  • http://twitter.com/catherineellen Catherine

    This is awesome! I want to print this and tape it to my wall. I think everyone should print it and tape it to their walls.

  • http://www.BeyondThePedway.com Tim Jahn

    Thank you for this, Amber. You’ve hit it dead on and I hope this helps people come around and move forward, as you suggest. This is what it’s all about – not who’s using Twitter or not.
    .-= Tim Jahn´s last blog ..Foiled Cupcakes =-.

  • http://www.BeyondThePedway.com Tim Jahn

    Thank you for this, Amber. You’ve hit it dead on and I hope this helps people come around and move forward, as you suggest. This is what it’s all about – not who’s using Twitter or not.
    .-= Tim Jahn´s last blog ..Foiled Cupcakes =-.

  • Gerald Grinter

    Amazing! This actually stopped me in my tracks! So true! The truth of the matter is that the cream usually rise to the top. My head is about to explode with all of this talk about how this “Social Media” revolution will change the earth as we know it. Maybe it will. I look at it as another tool to communicate. No more no less. One’s stream of consciousness between sales and the gym are starting to get old if you haven’t noticed.

  • Gerald Grinter

    Amazing! This actually stopped me in my tracks! So true! The truth of the matter is that the cream usually rise to the top. My head is about to explode with all of this talk about how this “Social Media” revolution will change the earth as we know it. Maybe it will. I look at it as another tool to communicate. No more no less. One’s stream of consciousness between sales and the gym are starting to get old if you haven’t noticed.

  • http://www.twitter.com/denisr Denis

    Yes Yes Yes!

    But who does what you are looking for as daily task hardly have the time to share it outside. It is also possible that some of them are sharing their knowledge, but they are outside the fishbowl :(

  • http://www.twitter.com/denisr Denis

    Yes Yes Yes!

    But who does what you are looking for as daily task hardly have the time to share it outside. It is also possible that some of them are sharing their knowledge, but they are outside the fishbowl :(

  • http://www.edgenation.com Paul..

    Very true, and not often said at the moment. Remember not too far back when everyone was an ‘Executive Coach’ or ‘Life Coach’? Before that they were probably web gurus, MLM genuises (genii?) and now they’re likely all social media experts!

    That’s not to say there aren’t some extremely talented folk out there who do know their stuff and can bring the right level of business experience to the table. But there sure are a lot of Walter Mitty types too!

  • http://www.edgenation.com Paul..

    Very true, and not often said at the moment. Remember not too far back when everyone was an ‘Executive Coach’ or ‘Life Coach’? Before that they were probably web gurus, MLM genuises (genii?) and now they’re likely all social media experts!

    That’s not to say there aren’t some extremely talented folk out there who do know their stuff and can bring the right level of business experience to the table. But there sure are a lot of Walter Mitty types too!

  • @larsv

    Amber – well said.
    Did you see the “Bad Apples in PR” post (http://is.gd/64xjL) – going a bit further in a similar direction: “The reason that PR agencies must continually defend their value is because there are a lot of shitty PR people.”

  • @larsv

    Amber – well said.
    Did you see the “Bad Apples in PR” post (http://is.gd/64xjL) – going a bit further in a similar direction: “The reason that PR agencies must continually defend their value is because there are a lot of shitty PR people.”

  • http://www.twitter.com/thirdeye3 Konstantina Zoehrer

    «I’m learning too, and I’m watching and absorbing all the time. But I see something bigger. Do you?»

    You said it all in this line. Nice straight post.
    .-= Konstantina Zoehrer´s last blog ..ThirdEye3: RT @TrendyFreddy 3d issue, featuring: Manolis Zoulakis, Giannis Roubanis, @katrinpi, Iliana Baferou and me http://bit.ly/8mnC4P =-.

  • http://www.twitter.com/thirdeye3 Konstantina Zoehrer

    «I’m learning too, and I’m watching and absorbing all the time. But I see something bigger. Do you?»

    You said it all in this line. Nice straight post.
    .-= Konstantina Zoehrer´s last blog ..ThirdEye3: RT @TrendyFreddy 3d issue, featuring: Manolis Zoulakis, Giannis Roubanis, @katrinpi, Iliana Baferou and me http://bit.ly/8mnC4P =-.

  • http://www.timgier.com Tim Gier

    Amber:

    We all make the mistake of thinking that communicating is having something to say and then saying it, so we spend lots of time focusing inwardly, developing our thoughts and then coming up with clever ways to publish them. (That’s what I’m doing right now!) The problem is that everyone else is concerned with their own thoughts, and challenges, worries, etc., and not your own. Communication begins and ends with listening. If I want to impact what you are doing, I have to understand what that is and I have to be willing to admit that I don’t have the answer that you are looking for, but that maybe together we can get a little bit closer to it. Hard to call myself an expert when the first thing I say is “I don’t know.”

    Your broader point about skill sets is spot on. Having something to say is difficult, finding a way to say it that makes it compelling is infinitely more so. Beyond the bare technical necessities of grammar and punctuation, written communication is especially hard because it is all too easy too assume that the reader is privy to the conversation that is going on inside one’s head (or forgetting that they are not.)

  • http://www.timgier.com Tim Gier

    Amber:

    We all make the mistake of thinking that communicating is having something to say and then saying it, so we spend lots of time focusing inwardly, developing our thoughts and then coming up with clever ways to publish them. (That’s what I’m doing right now!) The problem is that everyone else is concerned with their own thoughts, and challenges, worries, etc., and not your own. Communication begins and ends with listening. If I want to impact what you are doing, I have to understand what that is and I have to be willing to admit that I don’t have the answer that you are looking for, but that maybe together we can get a little bit closer to it. Hard to call myself an expert when the first thing I say is “I don’t know.”

    Your broader point about skill sets is spot on. Having something to say is difficult, finding a way to say it that makes it compelling is infinitely more so. Beyond the bare technical necessities of grammar and punctuation, written communication is especially hard because it is all too easy too assume that the reader is privy to the conversation that is going on inside one’s head (or forgetting that they are not.)

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  • http://jorge.threefivesup.com Jorge

    Great post Amber. I studied business and I found one of my passions is business. This post portrays what is needed right now in the business environment. I think this is a list of abilities we need to grow in ourselves and teach to others in order to have great business and open up more opportunities in the future.

    There is enough data to back up the importance of business skills in the social media area and there’s also a need for people that are able to link social media with objectives and not just people that take the buzz generated to label themselves as an expert.

    If someone is an expert it won’t express by word of mouth, it will express by WOFO (Word of F’n obvious), as Kathy Sierra says.
    .-= Jorge´s last blog ..User Controlled Privacy Settings =-.

  • http://jorge.threefivesup.com Jorge

    Great post Amber. I studied business and I found one of my passions is business. This post portrays what is needed right now in the business environment. I think this is a list of abilities we need to grow in ourselves and teach to others in order to have great business and open up more opportunities in the future.

    There is enough data to back up the importance of business skills in the social media area and there’s also a need for people that are able to link social media with objectives and not just people that take the buzz generated to label themselves as an expert.

    If someone is an expert it won’t express by word of mouth, it will express by WOFO (Word of F’n obvious), as Kathy Sierra says.
    .-= Jorge´s last blog ..User Controlled Privacy Settings =-.

  • http://socialsilk.com Maria Ogneva

    I think you echo the feelings of a lot of people (well, at least the ones who can think for themselves). Social media, as transparent as it is, can have a muddying effect on someone new to it. The flashy glitz and glamour can be disorienting to a newbie who is just getting on Twitter, for example. The place is overrun with many “gurus” and “ninjas” who have no marketable skills other than being on Twitter (which is not a marketable skill, by the way). The only reason they are popular is because they were at the right place, at the right time. But guess what? Just because they were able to create a following on Twitter that one time for one person, doesn’t mean it can be replicated.

    Unfortunately, in some ways, social web is a popularity contest, where good, solid content is sometimes sacrificed for the immediate gratification of a tweet that can get “eyeballs” for all the wrong reasons (I think this is symptomatic of our entire ADD / Fast Food culture).

    And guess what… we as a community perpetuate this behavior. Twitter lends itself to some faddish, cultish behaviors. I also think we have an unhealthy obsession with follower counts as a measurement of “influence”, which leads to a delusion that if someone has a lot of followers, well, he must be an “infuencer”. A lot of the problem is also that we are so focused on tools that we forget to think why we are using those tools, what the end goal is. Having a lot of followers doesn’t absolve us from being thoughtful. If Twitter was to go away tomorrow, where would half these experts and Twitter celebrities be? We shouldn’t be focusing on just Twitter (tool) and how to be popular on it, but rather how to adopt business communications and corporate cultures to the new realtime, transparent and social communication paradigm. Tools will change, measures of influence will change, but the paradigm is changed forever. Just like with every business cycle, the bubble will pop, and what will be left will be the stuff grounded in good ole’ business principles and disciplines like marketing, branding, revenues (gasp! we need a business model for that!), profit and cost centers, market research, finance.

    My 2 cents.
    .-= Maria Ogneva´s last blog ..Exciting New Announcement – New Career Move for Yours Truly =-.

  • http://socialsilk.com Maria Ogneva

    I think you echo the feelings of a lot of people (well, at least the ones who can think for themselves). Social media, as transparent as it is, can have a muddying effect on someone new to it. The flashy glitz and glamour can be disorienting to a newbie who is just getting on Twitter, for example. The place is overrun with many “gurus” and “ninjas” who have no marketable skills other than being on Twitter (which is not a marketable skill, by the way). The only reason they are popular is because they were at the right place, at the right time. But guess what? Just because they were able to create a following on Twitter that one time for one person, doesn’t mean it can be replicated.

    Unfortunately, in some ways, social web is a popularity contest, where good, solid content is sometimes sacrificed for the immediate gratification of a tweet that can get “eyeballs” for all the wrong reasons (I think this is symptomatic of our entire ADD / Fast Food culture).

    And guess what… we as a community perpetuate this behavior. Twitter lends itself to some faddish, cultish behaviors. I also think we have an unhealthy obsession with follower counts as a measurement of “influence”, which leads to a delusion that if someone has a lot of followers, well, he must be an “infuencer”. A lot of the problem is also that we are so focused on tools that we forget to think why we are using those tools, what the end goal is. Having a lot of followers doesn’t absolve us from being thoughtful. If Twitter was to go away tomorrow, where would half these experts and Twitter celebrities be? We shouldn’t be focusing on just Twitter (tool) and how to be popular on it, but rather how to adopt business communications and corporate cultures to the new realtime, transparent and social communication paradigm. Tools will change, measures of influence will change, but the paradigm is changed forever. Just like with every business cycle, the bubble will pop, and what will be left will be the stuff grounded in good ole’ business principles and disciplines like marketing, branding, revenues (gasp! we need a business model for that!), profit and cost centers, market research, finance.

    My 2 cents.
    .-= Maria Ogneva´s last blog ..Exciting New Announcement – New Career Move for Yours Truly =-.

  • http://marketingpi.net ollie

    Amber,

    The ‘experts’ spend resources (time, money, credibility) to then prove they have a value. They then are unable to take any other stance than propagating their expertise. The MBA meant something when it was rare, now it’s regularly decried- except for those who’ve done the hard yards getting one.

    Social media experts are in the same boat- as soon as the technology is unremarkable and widely utilised their ‘expertise’ will disappear.

    When we are dealing with the ‘new’, people seem to want to devalue the old skills that were valued. My position is why don’t we value equally the old and new skills.

  • http://marketingpi.net ollie

    Amber,

    The ‘experts’ spend resources (time, money, credibility) to then prove they have a value. They then are unable to take any other stance than propagating their expertise. The MBA meant something when it was rare, now it’s regularly decried- except for those who’ve done the hard yards getting one.

    Social media experts are in the same boat- as soon as the technology is unremarkable and widely utilised their ‘expertise’ will disappear.

    When we are dealing with the ‘new’, people seem to want to devalue the old skills that were valued. My position is why don’t we value equally the old and new skills.

  • http://www.jimgrayonline.com Jim Gray

    i came out of a sales/marketing/management background. Without those skills, the social world would seem more like a bunch of random chatter. But i have no fear of sitting in a board room with c-suiters to discuss what we can do the help them understand the social antics of their business and customers.

  • http://www.jimgrayonline.com Jim Gray

    i came out of a sales/marketing/management background. Without those skills, the social world would seem more like a bunch of random chatter. But i have no fear of sitting in a board room with c-suiters to discuss what we can do the help them understand the social antics of their business and customers.

  • http://www.pokethebeehive.com Dan Hutson

    This really should be the last word on this “tired subject,” Amber, because you’ve perfectly captured the frustration of dealing with the self-proclaimed experts who have little going for them other than a technical command (sometimes) of the tools. As a longtime marketing guy, I’ve been amazed at the mileage some have gotten out of social media when they have no real understanding of the fundamentals of marketing and communications, let alone basic business principles. Thanks again for this post. It’s one we should all print and hand out everywhere.
    .-= Dan Hutson´s last blog ..Looking in the Social Media Mirror =-.

  • http://www.pokethebeehive.com Dan Hutson

    This really should be the last word on this “tired subject,” Amber, because you’ve perfectly captured the frustration of dealing with the self-proclaimed experts who have little going for them other than a technical command (sometimes) of the tools. As a longtime marketing guy, I’ve been amazed at the mileage some have gotten out of social media when they have no real understanding of the fundamentals of marketing and communications, let alone basic business principles. Thanks again for this post. It’s one we should all print and hand out everywhere.
    .-= Dan Hutson´s last blog ..Looking in the Social Media Mirror =-.

  • http://www.neue-media.co.uk Lena Robinson

    Social media is just another way of communicating, it doesn’t negate the fact that all of the skills mentioned by Amber should be ignored, now more than ever they are massively important to surviving the tough times. And like any marketing channel, social media has to remain commercially viable to businesses, have ease of useability and ensure relevancy or it will cease to exist.

    Do not despair though – there are some experts out there who have realised that you still have to make it work in business – for example I have come across a Twitter expert who is all about Twitter and Business and how to make the two work for you – he just gets it. His website is http://www.markshaw.biz/ if anyone is interested, he has really honed how we approach our Twitter strategy and only having started out Twitter account in September, we had won our first client by December – not a bad sales cycle in the design agency world if you ask me.

    • http://www.potluckmama.wordpress.com Beth Coetzee

      Thanks, Lena. Though I echo the sentiments of Amber’s post and much of the commentary, your link is my carrot:) I’m just dipping my feet into the world of Twitter and appreciate the resource. Take care!
      .-= Beth Coetzee´s last blog ..What are you doing for others? =-.

      • http://www.neue-media.co.uk Lena Robinson

        You are most welcome Beth, I hope Mark can help you, he has little mini clinics on twitter about once a week where you can ask questions so if you are signed up just follow him on @markshaw and maybe he can help guide you that way initially.