Quit Pulling Your Punches

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Altitude Branding - Quit Pulling Your PunchesMan, we hedge our bets a great deal. It’s especially obvious online.

I’m not sure when or how we decided that we had to disclaim everything we say personally. Perhaps it’s the litigious world we’ve come to live in, or the over abundance of political “correctness”, but it’s more pervasive than ever, and it’s not a good thing.

When I asked why we insist on using things like IMO (In My Opinion) when buttressing our personal statements, Ryan Wynia was smart to point out that we feel the need to soften the impact of our personal perspective. That drives me a bit nuts.

If the words exit your mouth or keyboard, by default they have your mark on them, even if you’re sharing or restating someone else’s words. It’s like tacit endorsement, unless you’re careful to state otherwise. There are precious few irrefutable facts on the planet. And if you’re merely quoting and actively questioning without agreeing, that’s when you’d better be pretty clear about that, because the default setting in most dialogue is unadulterated and subjective opinion.

So here’s my PSA: Quit pulling your punches.

If you’re going to state something that warrants putting in out there online, own it. Stand on your own two feet. Be prepared to discuss, debate, defend, and listen.

Tagging your statement with “in my opinion” doesn’t soften the blow if you’re being offensive. It doesn’t absolve you of responsibility if your thoughts are controversial, accusatory, or if you’re asserting a position that could incite debate. And if you have something strong and important to say, it simply dilutes your words with a meek little disclaimer that basically says people don’t have to give your thoughts any credence whatsoever.

We do the same thing with “just saying” or “just my .02″. It’s like we’re apologizing for having a stance, and I’m less and less okay with that.

It’s a noisy world out here, full of fluff and pandering and nonsense. I, for one, am asking each of you to be proud of the thoughts you have and share them with confidence. We need your strength of character. The beauty of minds is that they can always be changed. You can change your opinion, too, if you find that your perspective has shifted. And you know what? When that happens, own that, too.

The world is full of ambivalence, of risk mitigation, of qualified statements and milquetoasts and deliberate middle ground. And while I don’t think you need to kick up dirt just for the sake of it, we’d all do well to demonstrate that if we believe our thoughts worthy of public air, we have the courage to take ownership of them, too.

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  • http://davidebenjamin.com/ David Benjamin

    Amber,

    You make a good point on a new subject. I think many of us have been way to careful with our communication in hopes of not offending anyone. In person I am much more opinionated and direct. I am going to work hard to transfer this behavior online as well.

    Thank you for sharing and making me feel more comfortable about this.
    .-= David Benjamin´s last blog ..How to Work With a Recruiter =-.

  • http://davidebenjamin.com/ David Benjamin

    Amber,

    You make a good point on a new subject. I think many of us have been way to careful with our communication in hopes of not offending anyone. In person I am much more opinionated and direct. I am going to work hard to transfer this behavior online as well.

    Thank you for sharing and making me feel more comfortable about this.
    .-= David Benjamin´s last blog ..How to Work With a Recruiter =-.

  • http://nextcommunications.blogspot.com/ Richie Escovedo

    Amber, thank you for writing this. I’ve not really considered this before but it makes sense. When I see “IMO” or “just my .02″ or any variation of those, I can see how it is often a veiled attempt to be polite while potentially offending.

    It’s similar to the bless his/her heart… here in the South. My wife believes (and I tend to agree) that when people use bless his/her heart before saying something, it’s going to be kind of mean. I guess they think by softening the blow with a blessing makes it not as bad than just saying he/she is an idiot.

    I especially appreciate the line, “…because the default setting in most dialogue is unadulterated and subjective opinion.”

    - @vedo
    .-= Richie Escovedo´s last blog ..The Social Media Silver Rule =-.

  • http://nextcommunications.blogspot.com/ Richie Escovedo

    Amber, thank you for writing this. I’ve not really considered this before but it makes sense. When I see “IMO” or “just my .02″ or any variation of those, I can see how it is often a veiled attempt to be polite while potentially offending.

    It’s similar to the bless his/her heart… here in the South. My wife believes (and I tend to agree) that when people use bless his/her heart before saying something, it’s going to be kind of mean. I guess they think by softening the blow with a blessing makes it not as bad than just saying he/she is an idiot.

    I especially appreciate the line, “…because the default setting in most dialogue is unadulterated and subjective opinion.”

    - @vedo
    .-= Richie Escovedo´s last blog ..The Social Media Silver Rule =-.

  • http://www.matterhornmarketing.com bencurnett

    Hi Amber. Thought provoking post.

    I don’t agree.

    And while I’m not just saying that for the sake of illustration, that little sentence does help show what I mean to point out with my disagreement. Meaning, I fought the urge to write “I don’t completely agree” or “I agree to a point”, which are my actual feelings.

    The qualifiers IMO and Just My $.02 (and Just Sayin’, in a more humorous way) make those non-irrefutable facts more your own. And they help you to say, “I understand what you’re saying. Here’s what I’m saying.”

    Without them, the implication is often, “You’re wrong and I’m right” which is a hard way to continue the conversation.

    Bottom line: Text is messy stuff. I agree with what you’re saying in some instances. Others, I don’t.
    .-= bencurnett´s last blog ..5 Reasons You Need A Map =-.

    • http://rickstilwell.wordpress.com Rick

      … what he said. :)
      .-= Rick´s last blog ..CONNECTING GOOD PEOPLE =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      We can disagree. That’s okay. :)

  • http://www.matterhornmarketing.com bencurnett

    Hi Amber. Thought provoking post.

    I don’t agree.

    And while I’m not just saying that for the sake of illustration, that little sentence does help show what I mean to point out with my disagreement. Meaning, I fought the urge to write “I don’t completely agree” or “I agree to a point”, which are my actual feelings.

    The qualifiers IMO and Just My $.02 (and Just Sayin’, in a more humorous way) make those non-irrefutable facts more your own. And they help you to say, “I understand what you’re saying. Here’s what I’m saying.”

    Without them, the implication is often, “You’re wrong and I’m right” which is a hard way to continue the conversation.

    Bottom line: Text is messy stuff. I agree with what you’re saying in some instances. Others, I don’t.
    .-= bencurnett´s last blog ..5 Reasons You Need A Map =-.

    • http://rickstilwell.wordpress.com Rick

      … what he said. :)
      .-= Rick´s last blog ..CONNECTING GOOD PEOPLE =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      We can disagree. That’s okay. :)

  • http://rickstilwell.wordpress.com Rick

    I don’t know, Amber – I mean, I agree with what you’re saying to a point. But there’s part of this in the exchange of dialogue that is still about civility. “You’ve got your idea, mine is different, and I don’t want to come down sounding harsh about yours, but here’s my opinion and maybe there’s a right way here in the middle somewhere”? Absolutely removing a figure of speech might go too far into the thing you’re trying to avoid in the first place. If I can’t qualify these thoughts as my thoughts, then I’m actually less likely to share them.

    IMHO. :)
    .-= Rick´s last blog ..CONNECTING GOOD PEOPLE =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      When in here did I advocate being harsh? I advocated standing by your thoughts without feeling the need to qualify them every step of the way. And you can most certainly disagree with someone without having to say well, gee, this is just my opinion but…

      Of course it’s you’re opinion. You’re saying it. :)

      You can still be kind and stand firm in what you say without apologizing for having an original thought or a different view.

      • http://rickstilwell.wordpress.com Rick

        Maybe it’s something about semantics like Tonja said below. But I’ve come up too many times into conversations where “disagreeing” is an offensible position. Perhaps it’s too much religion and politics here in the Bible belt, but having a different opinion is tantamount to starting the Civil War all over again. Adding “what I’ve found” or “just saying you might want to…” keeps the conversation at a personable level and gives the other person the information while also letting them hold onto the own humble opinions without feeling threatened.
        .-= Rick´s last blog ..CONNECTING GOOD PEOPLE =-.

        • Amber Naslund

          It’s very much in how you approach disagreement. Tone and tenor matter, for certain, and it’s not about being obnoxious or swaggering.

          My point is simply that stating an opinion is okay. So is disagreeing. I find phrases like IMO redundant an diluting. As Tonja mentions below, phrases like “I think” are obvious. If you’re stating it, you’re thinking it. Are there ways to be sure you’re communicating with taste and tact and even friendliness? Sure.

          What I’m reacting to is the trend to apologize for something practically before we’ve said it. It makes us sound like we’re already looking for an out before we say something so we can always back out and say “sorry, didn’t really mean that, was just my opinion.”

          In order to learn and establish our own views of the world, we have to find definitive anchor points of thought. I’m committed to making sure that I speak kindly, politely, respectfully, but clearly. Your mileage may vary.

        • http://rickstilwell.wordpress.com Rick

          Spot on with this: “What I’m reacting to is the trend to apologize for something practically before we’ve said it.” Totally agree, and in all this, one thing I need to keep addressing in myself. Owning up to it or keeping it to myself, both viable options, are better than waffling through anything like that.
          .-= Rick´s last blog ..CONNECTING GOOD PEOPLE =-.

      • http://johnhaydon.com John Haydon

        Amber – let’s face it: IMO, you’re totally wrong about pulling punches. ;-)
        .-= John Haydon´s last blog ..How to collect email subscribers on your Facebook Page =-.

  • http://rickstilwell.wordpress.com Rick

    I don’t know, Amber – I mean, I agree with what you’re saying to a point. But there’s part of this in the exchange of dialogue that is still about civility. “You’ve got your idea, mine is different, and I don’t want to come down sounding harsh about yours, but here’s my opinion and maybe there’s a right way here in the middle somewhere”? Absolutely removing a figure of speech might go too far into the thing you’re trying to avoid in the first place. If I can’t qualify these thoughts as my thoughts, then I’m actually less likely to share them.

    IMHO. :)
    .-= Rick´s last blog ..CONNECTING GOOD PEOPLE =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      When in here did I advocate being harsh? I advocated standing by your thoughts without feeling the need to qualify them every step of the way. And you can most certainly disagree with someone without having to say well, gee, this is just my opinion but…

      Of course it’s you’re opinion. You’re saying it. :)

      You can still be kind and stand firm in what you say without apologizing for having an original thought or a different view.

      • http://rickstilwell.wordpress.com Rick

        Maybe it’s something about semantics like Tonja said below. But I’ve come up too many times into conversations where “disagreeing” is an offensible position. Perhaps it’s too much religion and politics here in the Bible belt, but having a different opinion is tantamount to starting the Civil War all over again. Adding “what I’ve found” or “just saying you might want to…” keeps the conversation at a personable level and gives the other person the information while also letting them hold onto the own humble opinions without feeling threatened.
        .-= Rick´s last blog ..CONNECTING GOOD PEOPLE =-.

        • Amber Naslund

          It’s very much in how you approach disagreement. Tone and tenor matter, for certain, and it’s not about being obnoxious or swaggering.

          My point is simply that stating an opinion is okay. So is disagreeing. I find phrases like IMO redundant an diluting. As Tonja mentions below, phrases like “I think” are obvious. If you’re stating it, you’re thinking it. Are there ways to be sure you’re communicating with taste and tact and even friendliness? Sure.

          What I’m reacting to is the trend to apologize for something practically before we’ve said it. It makes us sound like we’re already looking for an out before we say something so we can always back out and say “sorry, didn’t really mean that, was just my opinion.”

          In order to learn and establish our own views of the world, we have to find definitive anchor points of thought. I’m committed to making sure that I speak kindly, politely, respectfully, but clearly. Your mileage may vary.

        • http://rickstilwell.wordpress.com Rick

          Spot on with this: “What I’m reacting to is the trend to apologize for something practically before we’ve said it.” Totally agree, and in all this, one thing I need to keep addressing in myself. Owning up to it or keeping it to myself, both viable options, are better than waffling through anything like that.
          .-= Rick´s last blog ..CONNECTING GOOD PEOPLE =-.

      • http://johnhaydon.com John Haydon

        Amber – let’s face it: IMO, you’re totally wrong about pulling punches. ;-)
        .-= John Haydon´s last blog ..How to collect email subscribers on your Facebook Page =-.

  • http://www.peaceloveandmuesli.com Kristin Glasbergen

    This is a great post. I often use, just my 2 cents, mostly to display a sense of sharing and not argumentativeness. (is that a word?) But there is no need. As you say, I should share my opinions and ideas and be proud that I have them.

  • http://www.peaceloveandmuesli.com Kristin Glasbergen

    This is a great post. I often use, just my 2 cents, mostly to display a sense of sharing and not argumentativeness. (is that a word?) But there is no need. As you say, I should share my opinions and ideas and be proud that I have them.

  • http://airfoilpr.typepad.com Tonja Deegan

    I wonder if it’s a case of semantics at times. So often online, people think they are saying one thing and it’s taken in a completely different context by someone else. Then you have the back and forth and “this is what I meant” type of conversation. Then you get gun-shy and try to alleviate those issues with a disclaimer.

    But that’s no excuse for not being able to have an opinion. In editing, I work with writers to take out the “I think” from every sentence. If it’s a statement and you stand behind it, then just say it!

  • http://airfoilpr.typepad.com Tonja Deegan

    I wonder if it’s a case of semantics at times. So often online, people think they are saying one thing and it’s taken in a completely different context by someone else. Then you have the back and forth and “this is what I meant” type of conversation. Then you get gun-shy and try to alleviate those issues with a disclaimer.

    But that’s no excuse for not being able to have an opinion. In editing, I work with writers to take out the “I think” from every sentence. If it’s a statement and you stand behind it, then just say it!

  • http://jimalexanderjr.com Jim Alexandfer

    I’m going to sidle up to bencurrnet on this one.

    While I rarely use these qualifiers I absolutely feel the attraction. For me the lack of nuance in the form, particularly where we are constrained by length, drives the urge. Qualifiers are my attempt to bring you to that place in the conversation where I think you will understand what I am trying to convey.
    .-= Jim Alexandfer´s last blog ..Open? Can’t we just call it Facebook Graph? =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Then my challenge to you is to stop using the qualifiers as crutches, and hone the craft of writing and communicating in smaller pieces in order to get your point across more effectively in the first place. :)

  • http://jimalexanderjr.com Jim Alexandfer

    I’m going to sidle up to bencurrnet on this one.

    While I rarely use these qualifiers I absolutely feel the attraction. For me the lack of nuance in the form, particularly where we are constrained by length, drives the urge. Qualifiers are my attempt to bring you to that place in the conversation where I think you will understand what I am trying to convey.
    .-= Jim Alexandfer´s last blog ..Open? Can’t we just call it Facebook Graph? =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Then my challenge to you is to stop using the qualifiers as crutches, and hone the craft of writing and communicating in smaller pieces in order to get your point across more effectively in the first place. :)

  • http://www.marketingdissector.com Steve Parker

    This is great advice, Amber. I’ve blogged it myself, stated a little differently. Those of us with strong opinions–especially contrarian-leaning ones–have a harder time with this than others. That’s why they call it the “courage of your convictions.” It takes courage. While I recognize the need to be totally candid and own/dfend my opinions, I still sometimes pull the punch a bit. I wish I didn’t. I guess it’s just human nature. On some days your courage levels are higher or lower than others.

    Manners and social etiquette may play an interesting role in this. No one notices but it’s like Twitter is some Jane Austen era throwback. You almost expect women’s avatars to have Victorian fans in front of them of the men to have muttonchops and stovepipe hats. I have never used the words “honored to make your acquaintance” to anyone IRL, yet on Twitter people are constantly “honored” by the praise or support of others. I think it’s simultaneously nice, interesting, ironic and hilarious all rolled into one. I think it’s a good sign for the human race that, when thrown into new social situations that have no rules for etiquette, we seem to overcompensate in hopes of not being offensive.
    .-= Steve Parker´s last blog ..The cult of failure =-.

  • http://www.marketingdissector.com Steve Parker

    This is great advice, Amber. I’ve blogged it myself, stated a little differently. Those of us with strong opinions–especially contrarian-leaning ones–have a harder time with this than others. That’s why they call it the “courage of your convictions.” It takes courage. While I recognize the need to be totally candid and own/dfend my opinions, I still sometimes pull the punch a bit. I wish I didn’t. I guess it’s just human nature. On some days your courage levels are higher or lower than others.

    Manners and social etiquette may play an interesting role in this. No one notices but it’s like Twitter is some Jane Austen era throwback. You almost expect women’s avatars to have Victorian fans in front of them of the men to have muttonchops and stovepipe hats. I have never used the words “honored to make your acquaintance” to anyone IRL, yet on Twitter people are constantly “honored” by the praise or support of others. I think it’s simultaneously nice, interesting, ironic and hilarious all rolled into one. I think it’s a good sign for the human race that, when thrown into new social situations that have no rules for etiquette, we seem to overcompensate in hopes of not being offensive.
    .-= Steve Parker´s last blog ..The cult of failure =-.

  • Jessica Johnson

    I wonder if the knee-jerk reaction people have to qualifying their opinions in a social media context stems from the long experience many of us have with regular old e-mail communication? I’ve observed that it comes down to the fact that most people are, in reality, terrible writers. That doens’t mean they aren’t good communicators, just that in face-to-face conversations they rely on tone, body language and the response of the people they’re speaking with to guide them. It is accepted that e-mail is meant to be casual (even in business, which is my biggest pet peeve) and people have done away with grammar and punctuation to a maddening degree. Thus, a casual style has become the norm as a way to compensate for the fact that most people don’t know how to write. I’m sure we all have experienced gaffes, some major and some minor, because intentions and tone were not expressed clearly in an e-mail. So we’ve become overly humble to make up for any perceived offense that might arise just because it’s all so badly written. I’m not holding myself up Hemingway or anything, I’m just dismayed by the lack of standards.

    - Jessica

  • Jessica Johnson

    I wonder if the knee-jerk reaction people have to qualifying their opinions in a social media context stems from the long experience many of us have with regular old e-mail communication? I’ve observed that it comes down to the fact that most people are, in reality, terrible writers. That doens’t mean they aren’t good communicators, just that in face-to-face conversations they rely on tone, body language and the response of the people they’re speaking with to guide them. It is accepted that e-mail is meant to be casual (even in business, which is my biggest pet peeve) and people have done away with grammar and punctuation to a maddening degree. Thus, a casual style has become the norm as a way to compensate for the fact that most people don’t know how to write. I’m sure we all have experienced gaffes, some major and some minor, because intentions and tone were not expressed clearly in an e-mail. So we’ve become overly humble to make up for any perceived offense that might arise just because it’s all so badly written. I’m not holding myself up Hemingway or anything, I’m just dismayed by the lack of standards.

    - Jessica

  • http://www.beldingskills.com Shaun Belding

    Great take! I think the disclaimers you mentioned (IMO, ect) are often used as substitutes for actually thinking through a position. People also think these things absolve them from the obligation to be respectful. Too many times we can see people choosing personal attacks over rational argument (eg. “I think you’re an idiot – IMO”), and believing that this is in some bizarre way appropriate.

    I agree wholeheartedly – be honest, own your position, keep an open mind, and don’t be an idiot (IMO)

  • http://www.beldingskills.com Shaun Belding

    Great take! I think the disclaimers you mentioned (IMO, ect) are often used as substitutes for actually thinking through a position. People also think these things absolve them from the obligation to be respectful. Too many times we can see people choosing personal attacks over rational argument (eg. “I think you’re an idiot – IMO”), and believing that this is in some bizarre way appropriate.

    I agree wholeheartedly – be honest, own your position, keep an open mind, and don’t be an idiot (IMO)

  • Lurene Haines

    Though the usage of disclaimers to soften a personal opinion can be – or seem – disingenuous and overused, cultural courtesy really does encourage “softening the blow” of personal opinion in order to reduce the perception of aggression or offense. Communication in a textual medium can be a minefield of emotional miscommunication or misperceived subtext and that “IMO” or “for what it’s worth” is often a gesture by the communicator at conferring a less strident response. I’m a big fan of courtesy and manners – often in short supply these days – so it’s hard for me to take a genuine offer of “just my 2-cents worth” as anything more than an attempt to keep the lines of communication open during a discussion. I advocate for courtesy as long as it’s sincere…

    • Amber Naslund

      The interesting phrase you used in here is “cultural courtesy”. We could probably have an entire discussion about the standards for what’s considered “courtesy” based on culture differences.

      But in my experience, the kind of statements I’m referring to often wouldn’t pass the courtesy test on their own, and the “IMO” simply serves to try and weakly cover that person’s behind and offer a thin defense to back against.

      The “IMO” isn’t the magic. It’s in crafting a well-thought and communicated statement in the first place.

  • Lurene Haines

    Though the usage of disclaimers to soften a personal opinion can be – or seem – disingenuous and overused, cultural courtesy really does encourage “softening the blow” of personal opinion in order to reduce the perception of aggression or offense. Communication in a textual medium can be a minefield of emotional miscommunication or misperceived subtext and that “IMO” or “for what it’s worth” is often a gesture by the communicator at conferring a less strident response. I’m a big fan of courtesy and manners – often in short supply these days – so it’s hard for me to take a genuine offer of “just my 2-cents worth” as anything more than an attempt to keep the lines of communication open during a discussion. I advocate for courtesy as long as it’s sincere…

    • Amber Naslund

      The interesting phrase you used in here is “cultural courtesy”. We could probably have an entire discussion about the standards for what’s considered “courtesy” based on culture differences.

      But in my experience, the kind of statements I’m referring to often wouldn’t pass the courtesy test on their own, and the “IMO” simply serves to try and weakly cover that person’s behind and offer a thin defense to back against.

      The “IMO” isn’t the magic. It’s in crafting a well-thought and communicated statement in the first place.

  • http://www.rickrossbusinessblog.com/ Rick Ross

    I can’t think of another time where I’ve seen this important idea communicated. It’s one of successes essential ingredients. Outstanding post – thanks!
    .-= Rick Ross´s last blog ..Taming Your Inbox, Part I =-.

  • http://www.rickrossbusinessblog.com/ Rick Ross

    I can’t think of another time where I’ve seen this important idea communicated. It’s one of successes essential ingredients. Outstanding post – thanks!
    .-= Rick Ross´s last blog ..Taming Your Inbox, Part I =-.

  • http://www.businessesGROW.com Mark W Schaefer

    … and stop hiding behind “I was just being snarky.” That’s simply a euphemism for “rude.”
    .-= Mark W Schaefer´s last blog ..A voice from the Nashville flood: Social media as a lifeline =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Sometimes that can be very true. I think there’s also a distinct difference between speaking your mind respectfully, and doing so with tasteless behavior, underhanded insults, or deliberate pandering for attention by throwing below-the-belt barbs.

      I see it happen online all the time, and those are the people I’ve stopped reading. I fully respect debate. I don’t respect behavior behind a screen that wouldn’t be acceptable in person.

  • http://www.businessesGROW.com Mark W Schaefer

    … and stop hiding behind “I was just being snarky.” That’s simply a euphemism for “rude.”
    .-= Mark W Schaefer´s last blog ..A voice from the Nashville flood: Social media as a lifeline =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Sometimes that can be very true. I think there’s also a distinct difference between speaking your mind respectfully, and doing so with tasteless behavior, underhanded insults, or deliberate pandering for attention by throwing below-the-belt barbs.

      I see it happen online all the time, and those are the people I’ve stopped reading. I fully respect debate. I don’t respect behavior behind a screen that wouldn’t be acceptable in person.

  • http://www.simplegreenorganichappy.com robin elton

    Coco Chanel said “The most courageous act is still to think for yourself. Aloud.” Everyone is so afraid of being WRONG that they miss the chance to be anything.

  • http://twitter.com/elysiabrooker Elysia Brooker

    Wow thank you for writing this post! You are totally awesome :-)

    Too often our opinions get dulled down by our desire to conform and not tread on anybody’s (PC) toes.

    We are part of a lucky group who get to share our opinions without persecution so we should own it and run with it!
    .-= Elysia Brooker´s last blog ..ElysiaBrooker: WOW! I loooove that! RT @jonathanfields: Read this from @AmberCadabra – Quit Pulling Your Punches http://shar.es/mhILv =-.

  • http://www.simplegreenorganichappy.com robin elton

    Coco Chanel said “The most courageous act is still to think for yourself. Aloud.” Everyone is so afraid of being WRONG that they miss the chance to be anything.

  • http://twitter.com/elysiabrooker Elysia Brooker

    Wow thank you for writing this post! You are totally awesome :-)

    Too often our opinions get dulled down by our desire to conform and not tread on anybody’s (PC) toes.

    We are part of a lucky group who get to share our opinions without persecution so we should own it and run with it!
    .-= Elysia Brooker´s last blog ..ElysiaBrooker: WOW! I loooove that! RT @jonathanfields: Read this from @AmberCadabra – Quit Pulling Your Punches http://shar.es/mhILv =-.

  • http://dannybrown.me Danny Brown

    I often wonder if social media has made us more like this (and yes, I know it exists in the “normal world” too) ;-)

    We offer opinions on “names” and their views, and immediately 100 of their supporters lash out and call us haters. And the “names” in question do nothing to combat this, or call on their supporters to respect differing opinions.

    While I’ll never pull any punches (something that’s landed me in hot water a few times), I can see why some might, if only to avoid the crapshoot of fevered supporters.

    Thoughtful post, miss. :)
    .-= Danny Brown´s last blog ..How Smart is Your Local Business Marketing? =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      I suppose that could be true in the culture of the web, to an extent. But it’s not limited to just “names”. And adding “IMO” to something doesn’t suddenly give you permission to be unkind or vulgar or insulting. Something being an opinion doesn’t absolve you of communicating thoughtfully in the first place.

      I don’t blame the “names” for not taming their hordes. Other people’s actions are not their responsibility. I wouldn’t hold you hostage because one of your commenters was an asshole. That’s not your doing. It’s up to them to own up to it and defend their own behavior, and if you have a problem with how they’re defending whoever they’re defending, it’s THEM you should be addressing directly.

      • http://dannybrown.me Danny Brown

        I agree about the IMO get-out and how it doesn’t excuse bad behaviour and downright rudeness.

        But I disagree with your view it’s not up to the blogger to look after their community. Points of view and heated disagreement will often happen. But if you’re sitting by while someone that’s part of the community you built is lashing out at others, that makes you just as bad. It comes across as not caring about those that take the time to visit, share views and recommend you.

        Count me out – I’d rather defend and lose the crap than have “bullying” for the sake of numbers and conversation.
        .-= Danny Brown´s last blog ..The Metrics of Social Media =-.

        • Amber Naslund

          I never ever said that it wasn’t up to a blogger to look after their community. What I said is that I’m not holding them responsible for the actions of others. There is a VAST difference there.

          Some will jump in the fray when it makes sense. Other times, it’s just feeding bad behavior. It’s one thing to nurture a community and let it be an entity of it’s own, it’s another thing to hold one person responsible for actions of others that are not under their control. You’re also making a pretty stiff presumption here that people let things go on for the sake of inflating numbers, and I’d be hard pressed to find anyone that I’d associate with that would do that. If I sniff that, they lose my attention. The best way for me to illustrate my lack of support for someone’s actions is to take away my attention.

          It’s pretty clear to me that you’re reacting to a particular scenario or two that you’ve experienced, so if you’d like to take that conversation elsewhere and continue it, I’d be happy to so I can better understand where you’re coming from.

        • http://dannybrown.me Danny Brown

          Hmm, think we’re on mixed scenarios here, Amber. Definitely don’t have “a scenario.. to take elsewhere”, just offering a point of view.
          .-= Danny Brown´s last blog ..The Metrics of Social Media =-.

  • http://dannybrown.me Danny Brown

    I often wonder if social media has made us more like this (and yes, I know it exists in the “normal world” too) ;-)

    We offer opinions on “names” and their views, and immediately 100 of their supporters lash out and call us haters. And the “names” in question do nothing to combat this, or call on their supporters to respect differing opinions.

    While I’ll never pull any punches (something that’s landed me in hot water a few times), I can see why some might, if only to avoid the crapshoot of fevered supporters.

    Thoughtful post, miss. :)
    .-= Danny Brown´s last blog ..How Smart is Your Local Business Marketing? =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      I suppose that could be true in the culture of the web, to an extent. But it’s not limited to just “names”. And adding “IMO” to something doesn’t suddenly give you permission to be unkind or vulgar or insulting. Something being an opinion doesn’t absolve you of communicating thoughtfully in the first place.

      I don’t blame the “names” for not taming their hordes. Other people’s actions are not their responsibility. I wouldn’t hold you hostage because one of your commenters was an asshole. That’s not your doing. It’s up to them to own up to it and defend their own behavior, and if you have a problem with how they’re defending whoever they’re defending, it’s THEM you should be addressing directly.

      • http://dannybrown.me Danny Brown

        I agree about the IMO get-out and how it doesn’t excuse bad behaviour and downright rudeness.

        But I disagree with your view it’s not up to the blogger to look after their community. Points of view and heated disagreement will often happen. But if you’re sitting by while someone that’s part of the community you built is lashing out at others, that makes you just as bad. It comes across as not caring about those that take the time to visit, share views and recommend you.

        Count me out – I’d rather defend and lose the crap than have “bullying” for the sake of numbers and conversation.
        .-= Danny Brown´s last blog ..The Metrics of Social Media =-.

        • Amber Naslund

          I never ever said that it wasn’t up to a blogger to look after their community. What I said is that I’m not holding them responsible for the actions of others. There is a VAST difference there.

          Some will jump in the fray when it makes sense. Other times, it’s just feeding bad behavior. It’s one thing to nurture a community and let it be an entity of it’s own, it’s another thing to hold one person responsible for actions of others that are not under their control. You’re also making a pretty stiff presumption here that people let things go on for the sake of inflating numbers, and I’d be hard pressed to find anyone that I’d associate with that would do that. If I sniff that, they lose my attention. The best way for me to illustrate my lack of support for someone’s actions is to take away my attention.

          It’s pretty clear to me that you’re reacting to a particular scenario or two that you’ve experienced, so if you’d like to take that conversation elsewhere and continue it, I’d be happy to so I can better understand where you’re coming from.

        • http://dannybrown.me Danny Brown

          Hmm, think we’re on mixed scenarios here, Amber. Definitely don’t have “a scenario.. to take elsewhere”, just offering a point of view.
          .-= Danny Brown´s last blog ..The Metrics of Social Media =-.

  • http://www.donovangroup.ca Andy Donovan

    Great and thought provoking post Amber. I received a note from a friend regarding her blog the other day and she indicated that she didn’t want to “tick” anyone off with her posts. My question to her was why have a blog if you don’t want discussion from both sides of the coin.

    It’s much like you say in the post “own” what you say or don’t say it at all. Am seeing more and more posts about pushing the envelope and being heard amongst the noise…glad to be adding mine to the wind via your post here. Cheers,

    Andy

  • http://www.donovangroup.ca Andy Donovan

    Great and thought provoking post Amber. I received a note from a friend regarding her blog the other day and she indicated that she didn’t want to “tick” anyone off with her posts. My question to her was why have a blog if you don’t want discussion from both sides of the coin.

    It’s much like you say in the post “own” what you say or don’t say it at all. Am seeing more and more posts about pushing the envelope and being heard amongst the noise…glad to be adding mine to the wind via your post here. Cheers,

    Andy

  • http://www.twitter.com/matthewdibble Matthew Dibble

    I agree whole heartedly and it can be taken a step further. In a world of text and written thoughts it’s the responsibility of the reader, the person on the other end of the IMO, to not read too deeply into what otherwise might be considered a bit of a slam. Have some faith in your readership, your voice and your talent to communicate
    IMOs, my 2 cents, etc… we know. You’re not a bad person, you’re stating a belief. No need to back down from that.
    .-= Matthew Dibble´s last blog ..MatthewDibble: @CDeltonWalker Isn’t that the truth, love having that in my backyard. Enjoy it, let me know what u think. =-.

  • http://www.twitter.com/matthewdibble Matthew Dibble

    I agree whole heartedly and it can be taken a step further. In a world of text and written thoughts it’s the responsibility of the reader, the person on the other end of the IMO, to not read too deeply into what otherwise might be considered a bit of a slam. Have some faith in your readership, your voice and your talent to communicate
    IMOs, my 2 cents, etc… we know. You’re not a bad person, you’re stating a belief. No need to back down from that.
    .-= Matthew Dibble´s last blog ..MatthewDibble: @CDeltonWalker Isn’t that the truth, love having that in my backyard. Enjoy it, let me know what u think. =-.

  • http://www.jeremymeyers.com/ Jeremy Meyers

    I think some of this (Within the context of our jobs, at least) comes from our historical need to ‘tread lightly’ and ‘demonstrate the value’ of stuff we inherently know to be true to an audience of skeptics, scoffers and general naysayers.

    We’ve been told that we need to tread lightly, that we need to phrase things in ways that people are already thinking.

    In short, we’re set up to be timid.

    Enough of this. The internet has been in the public eye for over 20 years. We’ve had email for longer than that. Get on the bus or get out of our way.
    .-= Jeremy Meyers´s last blog ..Be a person-sized learning atom within your own community. =-.

  • http://www.jeremymeyers.com/ Jeremy Meyers

    I think some of this (Within the context of our jobs, at least) comes from our historical need to ‘tread lightly’ and ‘demonstrate the value’ of stuff we inherently know to be true to an audience of skeptics, scoffers and general naysayers.

    We’ve been told that we need to tread lightly, that we need to phrase things in ways that people are already thinking.

    In short, we’re set up to be timid.

    Enough of this. The internet has been in the public eye for over 20 years. We’ve had email for longer than that. Get on the bus or get out of our way.
    .-= Jeremy Meyers´s last blog ..Be a person-sized learning atom within your own community. =-.

  • http://twitter.com/scottpdailey Scott Dailey

    I wonder how much of these qualifiers are the result of our online voice being shaped by unpleasant, at times, downright hostile debate. I cut my social teeth online via FPS clan forums. From 2001 up to now, I have made the majority of my online homes the discussion boards of one nerdy gaming clan after another and I have to tell yah panel, I have engaged in some flame-crazed verbal jousting on them there boards. As a systems admin, each time I send an email to my users, I have to be mindful to use language that speaks to the least tech savvy among my recipients. But in this case, I fully agree that these disclaimers are an increasingly less subtle method of merely pandering to those maybe not so well equipped to field contentious discussions.

    I often get frustrated when I must rest my thoughts on a doyle before I can be somewhat sure they’ll be consumed as I planned. But still, we’re dealing with the written word and it does fail me time and again. I however, have always viewed these dicey moments as a chance to improve my message sending abilities. So I try very hard to avoid qualifying my statements. My online social communities are comprised of a mixed bag. Some can hang and some need a lil’ hand holding. I like this post a lot because it challenges us to stand by our statements and ask that others adapt. But I’m a bleed heart too, so I get to thinking about who I might have reached if I had used a pillow here and there. I want everyone to digest the message and while I don’t control that, I can influence it. So I dig this post and man, can this gal Amber tell a story. You are eloquent sister, no doubt about it. but in the end, I think I’d like to limit my disclaimers but know I can go to ‘em when I need to. Danke Amber. We’re smarter for this dialogue.

  • http://sucktackular.com sucktackular

    “IMHO” means absolutely nothing and the widespread abuse of the term shows you the idiocy of the Internet as a whole. I am willing to debate this with anyone.

    If a person is unable to distinguish between opinion and fact, maybe he/she isn’t worth getting into words with in the comments of a /. article.
    .-= Sucktackular´s last blog ..When Roombas Rule The World =-.

  • http://twitter.com/scottpdailey Scott Dailey

    I wonder how much of these qualifiers are the result of our online voice being shaped by unpleasant, at times, downright hostile debate. I cut my social teeth online via FPS clan forums. From 2001 up to now, I have made the majority of my online homes the discussion boards of one nerdy gaming clan after another and I have to tell yah panel, I have engaged in some flame-crazed verbal jousting on them there boards. As a systems admin, each time I send an email to my users, I have to be mindful to use language that speaks to the least tech savvy among my recipients. But in this case, I fully agree that these disclaimers are an increasingly less subtle method of merely pandering to those maybe not so well equipped to field contentious discussions.

    I often get frustrated when I must rest my thoughts on a doyle before I can be somewhat sure they’ll be consumed as I planned. But still, we’re dealing with the written word and it does fail me time and again. I however, have always viewed these dicey moments as a chance to improve my message sending abilities. So I try very hard to avoid qualifying my statements. My online social communities are comprised of a mixed bag. Some can hang and some need a lil’ hand holding. I like this post a lot because it challenges us to stand by our statements and ask that others adapt. But I’m a bleed heart too, so I get to thinking about who I might have reached if I had used a pillow here and there. I want everyone to digest the message and while I don’t control that, I can influence it. So I dig this post and man, can this gal Amber tell a story. You are eloquent sister, no doubt about it. but in the end, I think I’d like to limit my disclaimers but know I can go to ‘em when I need to. Danke Amber. We’re smarter for this dialogue.

  • http://sucktackular.com Sucktackular

    “IMHO” means absolutely nothing and the widespread abuse of the term shows you the idiocy of the Internet as a whole. I am willing to debate this with anyone.

    If a person is unable to distinguish between opinion and fact, maybe he/she isn’t worth getting into words with in the comments of a /. article.
    .-= Sucktackular´s last blog ..When Roombas Rule The World =-.

  • http://suzemuse.com Susan Murphy

    And then there’s us Canadians – who see fit to apologize for expressing our opinions. Sorry about that.

    Going off to think about this for a while.

    (Sorry)

    :)
    .-= Susan Murphy´s last blog ..40 years, 40lbs – My Weight Loss Goal =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Stop it. :)

  • http://suzemuse.com Susan Murphy

    And then there’s us Canadians – who see fit to apologize for expressing our opinions. Sorry about that.

    Going off to think about this for a while.

    (Sorry)

    :)
    .-= Susan Murphy´s last blog ..40 years, 40lbs – My Weight Loss Goal =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Stop it. :)

  • http://www.themiddlefingerproject.org Ash

    What a salient point – thank you for making it. It seems that as we have more and more opportunities to speak our mind with the continued growth of technology, we also have more and more opportunities to put ourselves at “risk.” People are all scared to be rejected, and that fear is what’s prompting this type of prefacing.

    Point well-received. Will be RTing for sure!

    -Ashley
    .-= Ash´s last blog ..2 Minute Guide to Getting a Grip & Reclaiming That Thing Called Your Life =-.

  • http://www.themiddlefingerproject.org Ash

    What a salient point – thank you for making it. It seems that as we have more and more opportunities to speak our mind with the continued growth of technology, we also have more and more opportunities to put ourselves at “risk.” People are all scared to be rejected, and that fear is what’s prompting this type of prefacing.

    Point well-received. Will be RTing for sure!

    -Ashley
    .-= Ash´s last blog ..2 Minute Guide to Getting a Grip & Reclaiming That Thing Called Your Life =-.

  • http://www.tradeshowinstitute.com Traci Browne

    Nope…I disagree with this one. Or I should say I agree with the idea of have an opinion, put it out there, stand behind it, don’t apologize for it, etc.

    I do not agree that IMO, my $.02, and just sayin are ways of back pedaling or softening the blow. When I say, in my opinion, I mean it as it was intended to be used. I am saying this is my opinion and I understand there are other opinions out there that differ, but this is mine. Just sayin to me implies it is an opinion but on a topic that I do not take too seriously. It’s not a deal breaker let’s say. My two cents…well we’ve been saying that phrase forever. Yes it is intended to lessen the blow and honestly…it’s just my opinion but really, what is wrong with that? Sometimes saying someone’s baby is ugly is a bit harsh…but saying “you might want to take the baby out more at night and keep it inside out of the sun during the day, but that’s just my two cents”…is just a bit nicer no?

    • http://sucktackular.com sucktackular

      It’s obviously your opinion, making the declaration that it’s your opinion redundant and unnecessary. It also just sounds stupid because of how overused the phrase is.
      .-= Sucktackular´s last blog ..When Roombas Rule The World =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Traci – Actually no. What’s “nicer” is the statement itself being rephrased, not that you added the “just my two cents” bit. In fact, the “my two cents” sounds to me like you’re using something similar to “no offense”, which, by its very nature, is intended to pad a statement that’s bound to be offensive.

      If your’e going to say that you ought to take the baby out more at night, just say it. By default, that’s your opinion. Trying to soften a potentially hurtful or offensive statement by disclaiming that it’s ‘just’ an opinion is silly, and ineffective.

      • http://www.tradeshowinstitute.com Traci Browne

        clearly the humor did not translate.

        But I still do not understand why ‘in my opinion’ is being pigeonholed as softening the blow. Why can’t it just be my opinion. Today it is rainy and cold…most would say the day is lousy. My saying “in my opinion, cloudy cold days are fantastic” is not softening any blow. I am stating an opinion that is different from yours and others. I am also recognizing that my belief is not a fact that cannot be disputed nor is theirs. We are all entitled to our opinions and that makes the world a more interesting place.

        Just checking…am I allowed to say, I believe or I feel before a statement or is that out of bounds as well. I mean obviously if I’m the one saying it I believe it right?

        • Amber Naslund

          You’re allowed to say whatever you like, Traci. No one is putting concrete rules down here. I’m simply sharing my perspective. Do whatever works for you. It’s discussion, not legislation. And the humor translated just fine!

          My point is that 1) there are precious few irrefutable facts. Ever. Which means that most of the time 2) anything you state is, by default, opinion. “IMO” is redundant, and it carries implications in my interpretation.

          And of course we’re all entitled to our opinions. In fact, my entire post and the ensuing discussion is in defense of that fact, and hoping that we can all be a little more proud to just have them and put ‘em forward without a pile of disclaimers.

        • http://www.tradeshowinstitute.com Traci Browne

          Kudos to you for posting something that has generated so much interesting discussion and I am very impressed by the time and thought you are putting into your replies. Very impressed.

  • http://www.tradeshowinstitute.com Traci Browne

    Nope…I disagree with this one. Or I should say I agree with the idea of have an opinion, put it out there, stand behind it, don’t apologize for it, etc.

    I do not agree that IMO, my $.02, and just sayin are ways of back pedaling or softening the blow. When I say, in my opinion, I mean it as it was intended to be used. I am saying this is my opinion and I understand there are other opinions out there that differ, but this is mine. Just sayin to me implies it is an opinion but on a topic that I do not take too seriously. It’s not a deal breaker let’s say. My two cents…well we’ve been saying that phrase forever. Yes it is intended to lessen the blow and honestly…it’s just my opinion but really, what is wrong with that? Sometimes saying someone’s baby is ugly is a bit harsh…but saying “you might want to take the baby out more at night and keep it inside out of the sun during the day, but that’s just my two cents”…is just a bit nicer no?

    • http://sucktackular.com Sucktackular

      It’s obviously your opinion, making the declaration that it’s your opinion redundant and unnecessary. It also just sounds stupid because of how overused the phrase is.
      .-= Sucktackular´s last blog ..When Roombas Rule The World =-.

    • Amber Naslund

      Traci – Actually no. What’s “nicer” is the statement itself being rephrased, not that you added the “just my two cents” bit. In fact, the “my two cents” sounds to me like you’re using something similar to “no offense”, which, by its very nature, is intended to pad a statement that’s bound to be offensive.

      If your’e going to say that you ought to take the baby out more at night, just say it. By default, that’s your opinion. Trying to soften a potentially hurtful or offensive statement by disclaiming that it’s ‘just’ an opinion is silly, and ineffective.

      • http://www.tradeshowinstitute.com Traci Browne

        clearly the humor did not translate.

        But I still do not understand why ‘in my opinion’ is being pigeonholed as softening the blow. Why can’t it just be my opinion. Today it is rainy and cold…most would say the day is lousy. My saying “in my opinion, cloudy cold days are fantastic” is not softening any blow. I am stating an opinion that is different from yours and others. I am also recognizing that my belief is not a fact that cannot be disputed nor is theirs. We are all entitled to our opinions and that makes the world a more interesting place.

        Just checking…am I allowed to say, I believe or I feel before a statement or is that out of bounds as well. I mean obviously if I’m the one saying it I believe it right?

        • Amber Naslund

          You’re allowed to say whatever you like, Traci. No one is putting concrete rules down here. I’m simply sharing my perspective. Do whatever works for you. It’s discussion, not legislation. And the humor translated just fine!

          My point is that 1) there are precious few irrefutable facts. Ever. Which means that most of the time 2) anything you state is, by default, opinion. “IMO” is redundant, and it carries implications in my interpretation.

          And of course we’re all entitled to our opinions. In fact, my entire post and the ensuing discussion is in defense of that fact, and hoping that we can all be a little more proud to just have them and put ‘em forward without a pile of disclaimers.

        • http://www.tradeshowinstitute.com Traci Browne

          Kudos to you for posting something that has generated so much interesting discussion and I am very impressed by the time and thought you are putting into your replies. Very impressed.

  • Darryl

    Ok, I will put this disclaimer: I haven’t read all the posts, just a few–so I don’t know if anyone has made the same comment I’m making below.

    I agree with you Amber. The IMO (or even worse IMHO–HUMBLE? Are you kidding me?)–is really an attempt to disclaim. “Well, it’s just me saying…” I assume if you say anything it is your opinion or you wouldn’t have said it. If anything it is unnecessarily redundant.

    A person does not have to be uncivil in their communication nor do you have to include the IMO to be civil. I think we tend to dash off an email without thinking and then throw in the IMO just in case.

    Here’s a better idea: why don’t I seriously think through everything I type before I actually hit the “send” button? In the days before email and IM we were encouraged when angry to write a vicious letter, put it in the drawer and then read it two days later. Usually you ended up destroying the letter and writing one making the same point but with more class and propriety.

    Now, obviously I’m human enough to fail at my own advice often enough! But it is still true. Too many people are guilty of typing and then sending before thinking.

    • Amber Naslund

      That’s a very good point and well taken. The “think before you type” thing really would solve a lot of issues sometimes, wouldn’t it? We’re always blaming others for misinterpreting our words, when we could all do with a bit of pause before we speak, and improved clarity in our communication to reduce the chance of being misunderstood.

      That goes for me too, you know. I’m always trying to improve my communication skills, because they’re the underpinning to so many things.

  • Darryl

    Ok, I will put this disclaimer: I haven’t read all the posts, just a few–so I don’t know if anyone has made the same comment I’m making below.

    I agree with you Amber. The IMO (or even worse IMHO–HUMBLE? Are you kidding me?)–is really an attempt to disclaim. “Well, it’s just me saying…” I assume if you say anything it is your opinion or you wouldn’t have said it. If anything it is unnecessarily redundant.

    A person does not have to be uncivil in their communication nor do you have to include the IMO to be civil. I think we tend to dash off an email without thinking and then throw in the IMO just in case.

    Here’s a better idea: why don’t I seriously think through everything I type before I actually hit the “send” button? In the days before email and IM we were encouraged when angry to write a vicious letter, put it in the drawer and then read it two days later. Usually you ended up destroying the letter and writing one making the same point but with more class and propriety.

    Now, obviously I’m human enough to fail at my own advice often enough! But it is still true. Too many people are guilty of typing and then sending before thinking.

    • Amber Naslund

      That’s a very good point and well taken. The “think before you type” thing really would solve a lot of issues sometimes, wouldn’t it? We’re always blaming others for misinterpreting our words, when we could all do with a bit of pause before we speak, and improved clarity in our communication to reduce the chance of being misunderstood.

      That goes for me too, you know. I’m always trying to improve my communication skills, because they’re the underpinning to so many things.